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Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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Re: Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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Do you think Israelis are only from Europe? Seriously?

They are predominantly so. Ashkenazi Jews are from Eastern Europe. Sephardic Jews are from Spain. Zionism as a movement was started in Europe by Europeans. Israel is a European colony state.

And presumably Mizrachi Jews don't exist?

Don't fool yourself, you are repeating antisemitic slurs. The Jews in Israel never left, and Zionisim is something like 2,000 years old (it's as old the Babylonian exile). Israel is as far from "colony state" as you can get - it's literally the opposite, it's an example of the native people getting their own land back.

Re: Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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"Unit 8200 had built an indiscriminate new system allowing its intelligence officers to collect, play back and analyse the content of cellular calls of an entire population"

During the troubles in Northern Ireland all the phones were tapped. IRA supporters knew this, so would frequently discuss fake bombing plans over the phone, sending the authorities on a wild goose chase.

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The issue that people have with Israel's actions is the death of civilians, not the death of Hamas, the widely recognised terrorist. I believe it also to be true that the IDF do not want to kill civilians, and that their target is only Hamas. In which case, is it prudent to remove the IDF's ability to successfully target the correct people? Precise military intelligence is absolutely necessary for minimising civilian…

> Precise military intelligence is absolutely necessary for minimising civilian casualties. Whatever they've been doing on that front doesn't seem to be working so far...

It's so weird how people think the casualty rate in Gaza is high, it's actually incredibly low, virtually no other army in the world could achieve such a low collateral damage rate in urban warfare against guerillas.

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The UN says differently. Should I just take Israel's word for it?

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"Don't take Israel's word for it. Take this far-right pro-war website's word instead!"

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> Precise military intelligence is absolutely necessary for minimising civilian casualties. Whatever they've been doing on that front doesn't seem to be working so far...

It's so weird how people think the casualty rate in Gaza is high, it's actually incredibly low, virtually no other army in the world could achieve such a low collateral damage rate in urban warfare against guerillas.

The killings are not only direct hits with bullets. They are also blocking food, medicine and healthcare. Noone can survive without food. The goal is not to kill hamas, that was just the excuse, it is to clear the ground for new settlements.

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Gee i wonder what happens if Israel just let the west bank be. Wait…i know what will happen

Rocket factories, like the one that was discovered week ago https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bjbqu9qolx

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Re: Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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Even political Zionism is minimally defined as supporting "a home for Jews in Palestine"[1] Not only does it not require any ethnic exclusivity nor even for a national identity, it doesn't even require an independent state in the contemporary sense. Some of those who identify as Zionist take it to mean only that Jews should be able to live with some form of self-determination in Palestine, and so when they hear "anti…

What term do you think would be useful specifically to describe the very widespread tendency in much of Israeli society to view Jews as inherently superior and deserving of favorable treatment by the state? Jewish supremacy, maybe?

Yes

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How so? The Patriot Act was arguably the kick-off of the state of constant mass surveillance that is ubiquitous today.

The problem with the Patriot Act was mass surveillance of people who didn't need to be surveilled. In this situation we are talking about a group of people with support for genocide in the double digit percentages.

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What makes you think Netherlands government knows what data resides within its borders?

I don’t necessarily expect them to know what resides within their borders, I merely expect them to act against atrocities. It is no accident that all this data was located in the Netherlands.

It was located in the Netherlands because the Netherlands has excellent privacy and data protection laws. It's the same reason so much cybercrime is traced back to Dutch servers.
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