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The Windows Subsystem for Linux is now open source

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Re: The Windows Subsystem for Linux is now open source

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Post by misja111 »

udev4096 wrote: post #724

I still can't believe how people use windows as their main system with all the extremely invasive telemetry and bogus "AI" features that hogs a LOT of resources at idle

I am forced to use Windows at work. Surprisingly many large enterprises use Windows, mostly because of their dependency on Microsoft Office and Exchange. I'm really happy that WSL exists so I have to deal as little with Windows as possible.

At home I still need to have a native Windows laptop because of one application that I use a lot (a backgammon analyser) that runs natively on Windows and is heavily cpu driven. I could run it in a VM but the performance penalty is just too heavy.

Re: The Windows Subsystem for Linux is now open source

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Post by ThatMedicIsASpy »

MrPowerGamerBR wrote: post #220
liendolucas wrote: post #107

I would do it the other way round: use Windows in a virtual machine from Linux. If you are in Windows and have the urge to use Linux, do the proper switch once and for all. You will never look back. I haven't in almost 15 years. Given what Windows has become and already discussed here on HN I would even hesitate to run it in a virtual machine. Edit: more than 15 years.

Except that if you require anything that is GPU-related (like gaming, Adobe suite apps, etc) you'll need to have a secondary GPU to passthrough it to the VM, which is not something that everyone has. So, if you don't have a secondary GPU, you'll need to live without graphics acceleration in the VM... so for a lot of people the "oh you just need to use a VM!" solution is not feasible, because most of the software that…

AMD has SRIOV on the roadmap for consumer gpus which hopefully makes things easier in the future for gpu accelerated VMs

https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-GIM-Open-Source

Windows can run GPU accelerated Windows VMs with paravirtualization. But I have no use case for two Windows machines sharing a GPU.

Re: The Windows Subsystem for Linux is now open source

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Post by mafuy »

udev4096 wrote: post #758
guardian5x wrote: post #743

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet games run pretty fast on Windows.

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No need to be so mean. And it's obviously not true as not all Windows programs run on linux.

Source: I switched nearly all my machines to linux over the past couple years.

Re: The Windows Subsystem for Linux is now open source

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Post by dd_xplore »

People just want to bash Windows left n right. But no other OS in history has been this mature with handling GUI snd and providing the flexibility, customisations etc.

Before I say anything, Windows 11 is bad.

I remember playing with Win98, XP , I would modify many many registry settings, mod binary files to do something with games, you could access all sorts of weird hardware which only had drivers for windows!

Windows 98-7 were best for learning stuff about computers (inner workings etc).

I remember, to remove viruses (XP)I was trying to hard delete system 32 folder, it deleted lots of files and it continued to run!

Re: The Windows Subsystem for Linux is now open source

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Post by Stevvo »

madeofpalk wrote: post #567
sureglymop wrote: post #533

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows in a vm with a passed through GPU is really nice. Although still pretty niche these days it's easier than it used to be. It also works with a single GPU, e.g. on a laptop. I personally have a desktop PC with an AMD GPU and then another Nvidia GPU that I pass through to windows hosts. I have a hook that changes the display output and switches the inputs using evdev.

It's really nice if you have two seperate GPUs in your computer ?

Most computers do. All laptops and most desktops have an integrated GPU on the CPU.

Re: The Windows Subsystem for Linux is now open source

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Post by TrackerFF »

udev4096 wrote: post #724

I still can't believe how people use windows as their main system with all the extremely invasive telemetry and bogus "AI" features that hogs a LOT of resources at idle

I mainly use a computer for:

- Work (heavy usage of Microsoft office apps)

- Audio / recording studio

- Some gaming

- Software development

Unfortunately for me, that's three uses where Windows excels, versus one for Linux.

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Post by ZoomZoomZoom »

Stevvo wrote: post #806
madeofpalk wrote: post #567

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's really nice if you have two seperate GPUs in your computer ?

Most computers do. All laptops and most desktops have an integrated GPU on the CPU.

That's the first. Do you have sources most have more?

Re: The Windows Subsystem for Linux is now open source

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Post by gloosx »

0xEF wrote: post #789
gloosx wrote: post #781

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I truly believe if AAA titles would not release for windows exclusively no-one would have a good reason to use windows really besides inertia.

Businesses would. The problem with that is you have decision makers in said businesses who don't know any better, so Microsoft-all-the-things gets pushed down the line. Offices are all trapped on Windows 10/11 and using Teams/Outlook with Exchange/Entra/Azure chugging along in all its misconfigured glory. Heck, half the MSPs I work side-by-side with seem to only offer support on Windows machines. It gets worse. When…

I left some room for myself with "a good reason" :)

When company is forcing you to use something out of inertia, then it's probably not for a good reason.

Actually regarding the "global scale" – I'm not really sure it's true, I think MS has influence mostly in US. Many EU and Asian companies I worked with were using OSX/Linux.

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