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NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Post by coliveira »

watersb wrote: post #733
Ray20 wrote: post #673

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>They've been an ally in a strategic location for decades. Ally in what? Typical gaslighting. Before the invasion, no one could find Ukraine on a map and no one considered it an ally (if they even knew it existed). To such extent that many Ukrainians in the USA before 2014, when introducing themselves, often said they were from Russia - just to avoid having to explain what is Ukraine. >They were invaded by Russia. Ye…

>> They were invaded by Russia. > Yes. But what is the war being fought for? Someone breaks into your home. Kills family members. They're still coming in. You tell your kids to get behind you. Then you turn to face the invader. That's what this war is being fought for.

Funny that people don't want to have this perspective in the case of Gaza.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Post by hackyhacky »

int_19h wrote: post #738
hackyhacky wrote: post #506

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> I'll add the people that promoted it often said that amongst themselves while more publicly just talking about "diversity." They usually believed in imtersectionality, redistribution of wealth/power, etc. Their fix is systematic discrimination against specific groups to redistribute power to achieve the outcomes. And, if other groups become dominant, they still favor them over white people. You say this without any…

Your argument boils down to "no true Scotsman". I have personally heard managers discussing the candidates' backgrounds in the context where it was clear that some were preferred over others, because their managers wanted to see them "demonstrate some commitment". Now what? Are you going to tell me that I misheard, or that my experience is somehow invalid? This administration is a cesspit of vile fascist scum, and th…

Your experience is not "invalid", but certainly unrepresentative.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Post by Ray20 »

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #791
Ray20 wrote: post #598

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>Would you have believed a few months ago that the US government would be trying to strong-arm foreign nations who are nominally allies into compliance with its policy preferences? What do you mean? Hasn't the USA pretty much ALWAYS done this? >The whole hysteria about illegal immigrants is based on the specious claim that one party is importing them wholesale and somehow converting them into voters to steal election…

> based on the existence of tens of millions of illegal immigrants Oh, hello Trumpist Number. Like apparent “millions” who died in the Ukraine war.

>Oh, hello Trumpist Number. Like apparent “millions” who died in the Ukraine war.

And this kind of reaction is the main reason why the Democrats lost even the popular vote. Nice work.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Post by DonsDiscountGas »

UncleOxidant wrote: post #209

> appears to be driven in part by President Donald Trump’s proposal to cut the agency’s $4 billion budget by 55% NSF is essentially investing in the future and $4B is already a very small amount compared to the whole federal budget. If anything NSF's budget should be increased. Why are they looking to save pocket change when the real money is in the DoD?

Because it's not about saving money, it's about defunding political opponents (ie anybody not in lock step)

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Post by thrance »

pyrophane wrote: post #103
LightBug1 wrote: post #6

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I'm an American. I struggle almost every day with what feels like a betrayal of our republic by so many voters and leaders, and none of the explanations for why it has happened, even when taken together, are wholly satisfying. It has shaken my faith in democracy, but at the same time, there's nothing else, so I have no choice but to try to fight for it in what ways I can.

Material forces. The wealthy have a vested interest in dismantling the state, welfare programs, regulations, etc. Just so they can get more wealth through exploiting the workers.

Hence why they spend billions on propaganda tools like Fox News or influencers (Joe Rogan, Tim Pool...) propping up increasingly right-wing presidents. So far they've been successful: Raegan, Bush & cie. have been slowly but surely making things easier for the wealthy and harder for the workers.

Republicans have always used right-wing populism to get their ways (Blaming migrants, blaming LGBT, blaming leftists). Notice how pro-businesss policies are the only consistent trait between GOP presidency.

Trump is a turning point, he is the first one to do right-wing populism for its own sake instead of simply being pro-business. This is fascism. Here is my preferred definition of fascism if you seek one [1].

Trump is no singular phenomenon, you can compare him in some ways to previous or contemporary fascists: Putin, Mussolini... They all have in common a support from the oligarchy, and a hatred of minorities and leftists.

Until we fix the power imbalances of our democracies and rid it of all money's influence (easier said than done), we will suffer through fascism every 80 years or so. The time it takes for new oligarchs to emerge and accumulate the wealth necessary to dictate politics again.

[1] https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Post by xenophonf »

UncleOxidant wrote: post #390
kjkjadksj wrote: post #384

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It is only ironic if you believe they were speaking in good faith to begin with

Enough people believed it and voted for it such that they won the election.

And many more people were completely fine with the status quo ante, so they abstained from voting entirely.

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Post by tomhow »

LightBug1 wrote: post #6

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Please don't post nationalistic flamebait to HN threads. It just leads to flamewar hell, which is the primary thing we're trying to avoid here.

This isn't the first time we've had to ask you to adhere to the guidelines. If you up this style of commenting, we'll have to ban the account.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Post by insane_dreamer »

timschmidt wrote: post #148
SubiculumCode wrote: post #92

We absolutely cannot let science be hit by 50% budget cuts at NSF and NIH. It would be absolutely devastating to our standing in the world. Scientists will ABSOLUTELY leave to Europe and Canada to continue our research. I know that I would.

Seems like it's already happened. Historically, Europe has had poorer funding opportunities for scientists than the US and fewer positions to fill. I know a fair number of European scientists who came to the US because there were simply more positions available in their discipline. Even with these cuts I'm not sure that'll even out.

EU is already announcing it is ramping up significant to open positions and attract US researchers.

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Post by trealira »

Findeton wrote: post #645
analog31 wrote: post #28

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No. We did not elect the party majority in Congress or the Supreme Court. If anything, the weakness of our constitution has spoken. Take this as a lesson, and defend your democracy while you still can.

Trump is a reaction to what was there before him (and in between). Perhaps Obama/Biden were not that bad in comparison, but they went too far in one direction and now the reaction is going too far in the other direction.

Obama was like the Democratic version of Mitt Romney. To equate him with Trump is, bluntly, stupid. If the US stays a democracy, and a Democrat is ever elected as president again, one day we will get a leftist Trump who breaks the law as much as Trump does and is as cruel and stupid as Trump is, and then we really will be dithering back and forth between two extremes like a Latin American country post-dictatorship.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Post by bdangubic »

Findeton wrote: post #645
analog31 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. We did not elect the party majority in Congress or the Supreme Court. If anything, the weakness of our constitution has spoken. Take this as a lesson, and defend your democracy while you still can.

Trump is a reaction to what was there before him (and in between). Perhaps Obama/Biden were not that bad in comparison, but they went too far in one direction and now the reaction is going too far in the other direction.

If Trump went too far in the other direction at the same scale as Obama and Biden did we wouldn’t be talking about him other than made up shit politicians feed you so you talk about stupid social wars/issues instead of real issues in this country
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