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Google is winning on every AI front

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Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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Post by benhurmarcel »

nolist_policy wrote: post #71
antirez wrote: post #6

Gemini 2.5 pro is as powerful as everybody says. I still also use Claude Sonnet 3.7 only because the Gemini web UI has issues... (Imagine creating the best AI and then not allowing to attach Python or C files if not renamed .txt) but the way the model is better than anyone else is a "that's another league" experience. They have the biggest search engine and YouTube to leverage the power of the AI they are developing.…

On Chrome you can share your whole Project directory to Gemini. I think it uses the File System Access api which Firefox doesn't support.

You can share the entire folder directly in the web UI? How? I can only see how to upload a file.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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Post by fennecfoxy »

nroets wrote: post #38
visarga wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Modern BERT with the extended context has solved natural language web search. I mean it as no exaggeration that _everything_ google does for search is now obsolete. The web UI for people using search may be obsolete, but search is hot, all AIs need it, both web and local. It's because models don't have recent information in them and are unable to reliably quote from memory.

And models often makes reasoning errors. Many users will want to check that the sources substantiate the conclusion.

As they should do even for a Google search.

I see search engines as a dripfeed from a firehose, not some magical thing that's going to get me the 100% correct 100% accurate result.

Humans are the most prolific liars; I could never trust search results anyway since Google may find something that looks right but the author may be heavily biased, uninformed and all manner of other things anyways.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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Post by fennecfoxy »

fragmede wrote: post #285
djtango wrote: post #222

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This is a good anecdote and it reminds me of how Sony had cloud architecture/digital distribution, a music label, movie studio, mobile phones, music players, speakers, tvs, laptops, mobile apps... and totally missed out on building Spotify or Netflix. I do think Google is a little different to Kodak however; their scale and influence is on another level. GSuite, Cloud, YouTube and Android are pretty huge diversificat…

It goes to internal corporate culture, and what happens to you when you point out an uncomfortable truth. Do we shoot the messenger, or heed her warnings and pivot the hopefully not Titanic? RIM/Blackberry didn't manage to avoid it either. People like to believe CEOs aren't worth their pay package, and sometimes they're not. But a look at a couple of their failures and a different CEO of Kodak wouldn't have had what…

I firmly believe the majority of CEOs and executives may do something useful (often not) but none of them truly _earn_ their multi-million salaries (for those that are on the modern 100-1000x salaries). It's just suits, handshakes and social connections from certain schools/families. That's all.

Constantly I see them dodging responsibility or resigning (as an "apology") during a crisis they caused and then moving on to the next place they got buddies at for another multi-mil salary.

Many here would defend 'em tho. HN/SV tech people seem to aspire to such things from what I've seen. The rest of us just really think computers are super cool.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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Post by PhilippGille »

beering wrote: post #764
siva7 wrote: post #398

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Matches also my experience that openai fell behind with their deep search product. And that deep search is basically the top tier benchmark for what professionals are willing to pay. So why should i shell out 200 dollar for an openai subscription when google gives me a better top-tier product for 1/10th of the price openai or anthropic are asking. Although i assume google is just more willing to burn cash in order to…

The $20/month Chatgpt subscription has deep research so the comparison should be $20 vs $20, not $20 vs $200.

Gemini Deep Research is available for free, so it's $0 vs $20?
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