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Some people care about justice, you clearly don't.
Not your brand of justice, no.
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What are the deeper reasons for the war? All I hear from talking heads is this is aggression from Russia to grab resources and potentially continue to expand their territories through conquest.
My guess is that it was the decision of Ukraine to pursuit joining EU and potentially NATO (and potentially having US forces there) and Russia understanding that it is out of options to prevent this by peaceful methods like bribing politicians, propaganda, appealing to voters sympathetic to Russia at that moment etc. This happened in 2014. Also, if you remember, before starting the war Putin demanded that NATO stops…
technically, if that was cause, nato thing. were is retoric about 2 north countries joined now? why so inconsistent?
so russia not willing to loose sovereign independent country to which it promised to secure it to be so? how one can loose what he does not have nor owns?
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You're in the wrong place to spread Russia propaganda, here we go: > After its dissolution in 1991, Ukraine became the third largest nuclear power in the world and held about one third of the former Soviet nuclear weapons, delivery system, and significant knowledge of its design and production. Ukraine inherited about 130 UR-100N intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM) with six warheads each, 46 RT-23 Molodets ICB…
Lol using wikipedia as a source. Either way, the fact remains that there was no set of events in which Ukraine would have been allowed to have nukes. If Ukraine has said no, either the new government would be replaced or Ukraine would have gotten invaded by US and Russia simultaneously. It's nice that people say Ukraine and the other countries owned the nukes or whatever and have them sign an agreement to "hand over"…
Such a Russian narrative. Ukraine had all technical means to keep nukes, to service ICBM.
The issue was in budget to do that. Economics was ruined with the collapse of USSR.
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The rare earth deal, or "raw earth" as Trump calls it, seems to actually be with Russia instead of Ukraine. Trump has decided he can spend nothing and eventually drop sanctions and in return, Russia will give the US access to Ukraine's mineral wealth.
Only if Ukraine will stop fighting, which they wouldn't. Yes, USA is a major donor. Yes, it will be harder without their support. But without it Ukraine will continue fight. Because if they stop - it means the end of Ukraine. Ukrainians will be new soldiers in Russian army, a fresh cannon fodder against European guns . It is interesting to see Trump's bulling. What if Ukraine will ignore his threats? What a fool trum…
Hey, the US got half of Ukraine as a vassal state. 50% is more than the 0% before. Access to natural resources is about to be handed over. This is what all these wars for "liberty" are all about anyway. Time to call it a day and stop, no?
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#805Comments are disappointing for hacker news standard. This pause was predictable (I predicted it in Nov 2024). It's negotiation leverage to steer toward an immediate resolution of the war. An immediate resolution of the war cuts losses: Ukraine loses territory, but keeps its sovereignty. The challenge is that there aren't many other viable paths. An indefinite forever war, with high risk of a Ukraine state collapse, i…
What are the deeper reasons for the war? All I hear from talking heads is this is aggression from Russia to grab resources and potentially continue to expand their territories through conquest.
> what are the deeper reasons for the war?
russian people think they are above other nations, specifically slavic nations.
russians are fascists. even educated and literate, "liberal" people of them are such.
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I’m not concern trolling. I don’t want a single U.S. soldier on Ukraine soil. It’s a red line. I’m asking whether a security guarantee increases the risk of that happening.
Agreed 100%. No way should any American soldier be sent to fight in that war. It will be a never ending quagmire - both people and money. Full stop. And, good luck getting any real discussion from anyone here. Most of the Redditors are here now and have brought their "hate on America" flag to HN. Regardless of how much our President does or how much the US gives, it will never be enough. And, the ironic thing is, man…
> No way should any American soldier be sent to fight in that war. It will be a never ending quagmire - both people and money.
You have done that for quite literally the past 20 years in a places where no win condition could be established, and now that you have an 'easy' war, with an actual nation-state adversary that you can defeat both militarily and politically, without a need for guerilla warfare and millions of civilian casualties, suddenly you have issues?
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Countering pushed narratives with facts and arguments is a complete failure. It does not reach the emotional core, which is "us versus them".
Twitter community notes are popular and pretty effective at calling out misleading information that has gone viral (organically or inorganically). I think writing off facts and arguments is premature.
That's why Musk is going to "fix" them:
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2025/2/21/musk-vows-to-fix...
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> Due to the national security nature of a hostile military alliance at its doorstep Finland shares a massive border with Russia and joined NATO almost 2 years ago and what 'hard choices' have been made since? Please, do tell!
For sure this is destabilizing to the security of the region. One war at a time though. Hard choices? There are so many. One is that Russia had to deploy a large number of air defense systems to the Finnish border, and as a result didn't have enough for Ukrainian strike drones. This has resulted in far more penetration of Ukrainian drones into Russian oil refineries and ports than would have otherwise happened, and f…
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Why are you saying it's random? Trump isn't meeting the existing obligations and you are talking about how problematic Ukraine's condition for new agreements would be.
We have no obligation to support Ukraine under that memorandum.
Under your interpretation.