Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

apple.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

801–810 of 857 posts

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

#801

Post by Reason077 »

enragedcacti wrote: post #650
Reason077 wrote: post #642

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "I'm sure the modem contributes, but IMO the battery life is probably mostly from just having a bigger battery" According to reports, the 16e has a slightly smaller battery than the iPhone 16. 3279 mAh in the 16e vs. 3561 mAh in the 16.

IMO somebody just made that up based on it sharing the outer dimensions of the iPhone 14 which also happens to have exactly 3279 mAh. I can't really figure out what "larger battery" could mean in their release video if it isn't larger than at least the 14 if not the 16.

The iPhone 16e is based on the iPhone 14 chassis, with various internal hardware components swapped out. Just like the previous iPhone SE was based on the iPhone 8. So I guess there was an assumption that maybe it uses the same battery as the 14.

But given that the cameras got swapped out for a single lens, the MagSafe magnets were removed, etc, it’s certainly conceivable that they freed up space internally for a larger battery in the 16e!

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

#802

Post by Kirby64 »

cptskippy wrote: post #393
GeekyBear wrote: post #379

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article linked above: > With the blessing of competitors, Apple is about to change the Qi wireless standard itself. It’s contributing to a new version of Qi that works much like MagSafe — magnets, authentication, and all.

"Qi2 is based on Magsafe" is not the same as "Apple is... contributing to a new version of Qi" Your statement implies that Qi2 used Magsafe as a starting point or that it's primarily based on Magsafe. Your statement is inaccurate and would lead people to think that Qi2 was mostly an Apple design.

> Your statement implies that Qi2 used Magsafe as a starting point or that it's primarily based on Magsafe. Your statement is inaccurate and would lead people to think that Qi2 was mostly an Apple design.

You'd be wrong, though. Apple is on the WPC membership and has heavy influence over their spec definitions. They do this with many standards. They sit on the standards body as contributing members, and influence the specifications in ways they see as beneficial. They did this with USB (especially USB-C), they do this with MIPI standards, and they do this with WPC.

When standards organizations move too slow (which, is pretty much always), companies like Apple will move to make proprietary versions of a thing usually based on drafts of standards that are taking too long.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

#803

Post by Reason077 »

xattt wrote: post #724
enragedcacti wrote: post #650

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO somebody just made that up based on it sharing the outer dimensions of the iPhone 14 which also happens to have exactly 3279 mAh. I can't really figure out what "larger battery" could mean in their release video if it isn't larger than at least the 14 if not the 16.

I can’t understand how someone can say with certainty the capacity down to a single digit (327 9 ). There would be manufacturing differences that would induce at least some variation from phone-to-phone.

It’s a nominal capacity that’s printed on the battery, and encoded into its firmware. In practice, batteries tend to exceed this nominal capacity when they’re brand new which is why you see new batteries stay on 100% charge for a long time. As it ages, the true capacity will degrade and eventually falls below the nominal capacity.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

#806

Post by iknowstuff »

tgma wrote: post #760
dfabulich wrote: post #123

Check out the battery life! > iPhone 16e has the best battery life ever on a 6.1-inch iPhone, lasting up to six hours longer than iPhone 11 and up to 12 hours longer than all generations of iPhone SE. Their page comparing models claims the new 16e gets "26 hours video playback." iPhone 16e: 26 hours iPhone 16: 22 hours iPhone 15: 20 hours iPhone 14: 20 hours iPhone 13: 19 hours iPhone 12: 17 hours iPhone 11: 17 hours…

Not sure how much modem is contributing here. My guess is it is primarily due to the lack of ProMotion. 16e has a 60Hz display.

As does iPhone 16.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

#807

Post by quitit »

deergomoo wrote: post #176

At this point there’s only really one thing I want from an iPhone and that’s an option for a 12/13 mini sized device again. Surely those phones didn’t sell so few that it’s not worth doing at all?

Even if they only do one every 4 years.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

#808

Post by knubie »

deergomoo wrote: post #176

At this point there’s only really one thing I want from an iPhone and that’s an option for a 12/13 mini sized device again. Surely those phones didn’t sell so few that it’s not worth doing at all?

I'm still using my iphone12 mini and still holding out that someone makes a similar sized phone. I would love to see a slightly thicker version to accommodate a larger batter and no camera bump, but at this point a small, thick phone seems almost unimaginable.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

#810

Post by specialist »

bustling-noose wrote: post #225

Think of the QC modem as an API and that API is limited to what QC wants apple or anyone else using their modem to do. The firmware is pushed by QC and then apple can use it to update it’s modems of QC when it does it’s now updates. Now with C1 that API is designed at apple and in a way that their soc team wants to get the best battery life along. So the modem can be turned off / on updated request data signals etc i…

> ...Bluetooth and Wi-Fi and put everything in the SOC...

Maybe UWB, NFC, GPS too, right?

Noob question: these things have software defined radio something DSP something angry pixies. And the just add Rx/Tx stuff as needed. Right?

AM, FM, CB, whatever support would be cool.

Post reply on HN