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Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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The story about how they made this happen in such a short period is impressive to say the least. Elon’s strength seems to be making things happen. Getting the largest computer cluster in the world up and running in a matter of months? Unbelievable.

Elon's strength is a massive wallet.

I guess you didn't watch the videon in OP, because if you had, you'd know that they tried to buy the buildout and got quotes for 12-18 months, then decided to do it themselves instead.

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The politics in the comments here are really toxic. What’s happening to HN? This is the largest computer cluster the world has ever seen. Can someone please post interesting comments about things I can learn?

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I'm going to risk it and say you can ignore it, you just have to want and if you need to went go to reddit.

In Poland we have a new affair every month and I don't care. Your country will be fine.

I would also love to see more technical stuff discussed here.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon's unchecked power at building a model? Or at politics? I always worry whenever I see people telling me how to feel - rage in this case. We are in a political system that is oriented more around getting people to feel rage and hatred as opposed to consensus and deliberation. Elon is the face of that, but it's a much longer and larger problem. Throw in the complete dismisal that anyone not scared of this is ignora…

> Continuing the senseless partisan drive of the 20 years does. I think what the government is going through right now is wrapping up the last political system. The idea that Democrats and Republicans just need to learn how to work together is just wrong. The parties are being destroyed, and I think we should all cheer that. They were built to address the issues of the 20th century, and neither party in the current f…

>The democrats are stuck in supporting the new deal bureaucracy and the post ww2 order

> The new Republican party seems to be an alliance of people who just really want to cheer the crumbling of the old system

I agree, and I think this is a bizarre flipping of the "Democrat ~= progressive / Republican ~= conservative" dynamic that has been largely assumed throughout my lifetime.

We need both conservative and progressive forces in our society. Someone needs to be saying "here's what's wrong with our system; here's what needs to change", and someone else needs to balance that with "here's what we're doing right; here are the parts that are working well and that we should not get rid of".

It seems to me that now, instead of that tug-of-war discussion happening between the two parties, it is happening in parallel within them. Unfortunately, the sane and responsible version of that discussion is happening entirely within the boundary of the Democratic coalition, in a way that is completely ineffectual because (a) the internal conservative moderating force is relatively strong in a moment when the populace seems to want more progressive action, and (b) to they have so little ability to effectively wield political power.

Meanwhile, the Republicans are dominated by a bizarro "progressive" faction that wants to pull us all in an entirely different (IMHO regressive) direction. And that faction is completely unchecked by any internal "conservative" moderating force within its own party, so it is for the moment able to push us as hard and fast as possible in its preferred direction.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

#806

Credit to the engineers that built this, but it fills me with rage that Elon has this sort of unchecked power. How long before this starts getting deployed in safety critical applications or government decision making processes? With no oversight because Elon seems to have the power to dismiss the people responsible for investigating him. Anyone not scared by this concentration of power needs to pick up a book.

Or he starts using NSA data to train it, seems he has unchecked power to get into national systems and he made a point of saying this is more than the internet worth of knowledge...

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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The full-sized DeepSeek-R1 is on par with o1. o1-pro is "o1 on steroids" and was the first selling point of the $200/month Pro subscription but they later also added "Deep Research" and Operator to the Pro subscription.

Every year seems like we get worse at naming things in non confusing ways. I am waiting for the o1-pro-max now, pro max ultra and pro max ultra plus.

It’s hard because there are multiple dimensions being upgraded at different cadences. Architecture, parameter count, etc.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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post #478

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The full-sized DeepSeek-R1 is on par with o1. o1-pro is "o1 on steroids" and was the first selling point of the $200/month Pro subscription but they later also added "Deep Research" and Operator to the Pro subscription.

Every year seems like we get worse at naming things in non confusing ways. I am waiting for the o1-pro-max now, pro max ultra and pro max ultra plus.

I was recently laid off from OpenAI. My job was coming up with names for their models.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Credit to the engineers that built this, but it fills me with rage that Elon has this sort of unchecked power. How long before this starts getting deployed in safety critical applications or government decision making processes? With no oversight because Elon seems to have the power to dismiss the people responsible for investigating him. Anyone not scared by this concentration of power needs to pick up a book.

Never seen HN turned against someone so vehemently, it's as if a group of bots was set lose to criticize a certain individual.

It's been a long time coming with Elon Musk, and he has been criticized A LOT on Hacker News.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27796948 (2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33622767 (2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11025852 (2016)

I would also argue he is not being singled out, here are some comments posted criticizing Steve Jobs:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28295688 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5578642

It really shouldn't come as a surprise that notable people related to a company or project are brought up when an article about it appears on HN.

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