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Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by lnauta »

adamc wrote: post #481
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They’ve got the weird shit covered still, apparently the joy cons in this gen can be used as mice. Was heavily rumoured/leaked and this teaser video literally shows them gliding along a surface. How Nintendo will leverage that functionality, who could honestly say, but that’s the genius of keeping a toy company mindset in an industry full of sports car company mindsets.

That last sentence is worth an essay of its own. Everyone else keeps pumping resources into being photo-realistic blah-blah-blah without nearly enough attention to "is this fun"?

I play one game at a time for about a month and then move to the next. When I first played Mario Odyssey on my switch I was over the moon with how much pure fun it was compared to all the good looking and serious RPGs I played in the decade before. I had forgotten games can be this enjoyable. Nowadays I try to do these super fun games in between my souls-like sessions.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by Dylan16807 »

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400MB is huge, and cute touches can be very small.

It's not that large considering the size of NVIDIA drivers + WebKit alone. By comparison, the Wii U with it's "nice touches" was over 5 GB.

The necessary OS for running the game doesn't need webkit, and I doubt the important part of the nvidia drivers is super big.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by mrkpdl »

highcountess wrote: post #661
Celeo wrote: post #654

That was a very enjoyable trailer - visuals and sound both. That being said, the new Switch looks less ... "fun" than the existing Switch.

interesting you said that, because I was totally unimpressed and bored with it and thought, "Ok, so this it? So it's just the Switch, scaled up by 10%?" It's not that I expected something groundbreaking, but if I had been the creative director I would have said that they need to focus on whatever was updated, e.g., graphics or performance since effectively nothing major has changed.

At the end of the video they announced a direct for the start of April. This video is just a teaser. I’m sure they will cover everything you mention in the direct.

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Post by kergonath »

VyseofArcadia wrote: post #58

I don't like the aesthetic as much as the Switch 1. Looks a little too sleek, too monochrome, not Nintendo-y enough. Other than the splash of color around the thumbsticks it looks like any number of those handheld Steam Deck-alikes that have been coming out. That said I always wait for the special Zelda editions of Nintendo's consoles, so I don't know that I have standing to complain.

> That said I always wait for the special Zelda editions of Nintendo's consoles, so I don't know that I have standing to complain.

Yeah, I am sure there will be plenty of playful and colourful joycons for the Switch 2 as well.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by kergonath »

VyseofArcadia wrote: post #116
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Nintendo is not Nintendo-y enough for a while now. The switch system UI is bland and on launch the gray switch was the one being presented.

Yeah, I am not a big fan of the Switch UI. They really took out the "surprise and delight" compared to the Wii U and 3DS. Very bland and straightforward, and yet somehow awfully slow and laggy.

I hated the 3DS UI. It was not exciting, it was bad and inconsistent. At least with the Switch it is unobstrusive.

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Post by izacus »

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The Switch was the first device where i saw how well the mobile + docked system worked and it was my favorite device until I got a Steam Deck. The Deck is killer IMO because it takes the same form factor of the Switch, gives you more power and no restrictions on games.

Isn't the Steam Deck too bulky to be used comfortably on your sofa for more than a few minutes? I already think that switch 2 seems too big. I'd wish the regular switch was the size of the lite already.

I found the (non-lite) Switch to be rougher on my hands due to less ergonomic design. Deck is larger and heavier, but it sits nicer in hands.

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Post by EA-3167 »

whynotminot wrote: post #771
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Honestly, it's a milquetoast take. The only advantages of the Switch at this point are Nintendo exclusives and better support. There are some rough edges with the Steam Deck, but it's a bit odd to frame the Switch as "ready for mass consumption" when it lacks access to Steam, something every other handheld has, and consumers expect in 2025.

> The only advantages of the Switch at this point are Nintendo exclusives and better support Err what? This has always been the point of a Nintendo console. It’s like saying “the only reason people buy Windows/macOS is because they want an easy to use OS.” Like, yes. That is indeed the point.

I think the point is that with the Switch you get Nintendo only, and in the past at least that meant anemic hardware and paying for old games you already bought. With the Steam Deck you get a portable PC with all that implies, meaning PC games, but also emulation.

So on one hand you have a walled garden, of the type that HN tends to hate (when it's Apple), but on the other hand you have an open platform that's significantly more powerful.

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Post by monocasa »

larusso wrote: post #614
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Based on that list, they have tended really only to do that on mobile platforms. It was one of my favorite things about the platform, but it always felt like this was partially thanks to the older hardware still getting games well into the new hardware's life in many cases. Major games, I believe Pokemon has done this a few times? Most of their home consoles were complete departures from previous hardware. NES, SNES,…

First Wii was able to play Game Cube Games. WiiU was backwards compatible to Wii. All theses consoles used nearly the same chipset anyways.

WiiU also had the back compat hardware of the Wii, just couldn't take a gamecube disc in it's drive.

Similarly, a lot of the SNES internally looks like it was at least initially designed for back compat with the NES.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by makeitdouble »

tmvphil wrote: post #566
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To Nintendo's credit, their big exclusive titles tend to take advantage of the special hardware. Zelda was weird and impractical outside of the standard controls, but still somewhat benefited from NFC. Splatoon plays a lot better with the motion controls, NFC is actually a nice QOL improvement. A game like Arms is also nicer in split mode, even if core players tend to get back to the standard controller mode. I see i…

By NFC, you mean amiibo? I think "in game perks for buying collectible junk" is not actually a good feature. Motion controls, eh, they're supported on ps5. They could just sell the switch pro controller.

Yes, amibo.

For Splatoon it's used to quickly switch to preset weapons and gears as well, which is nice. You widly experiment with your gear and instantaneously get back to your "serious" setting at any time.

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