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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by lazharichir »

jeswin wrote: post #752

I am surprised at the number of people who think this has no market. If this improves employee productivity by 10%, this would be a great buy for many companies. Personally, I'll buy this in an instant if this measurably improves over Claude in code generation abilities. I've tried o1-preview, and there are only a few cases where it actually does better than Claude - and that too at a huge time penalty.

The problem is user experience. It's still very much a chatbot... To justify that amount, it needs to integrate a lot more with an employee's day-to-day tools such as code editor for SWE, the browser for quickbooks, words/sheets/powerpoint, salesforce, HR tools, and so on.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by strunz »

fragmede wrote: post #773
submeta wrote: post #394

I actually pay 166 Euros a month for Claude Teams. Five seats. And I only use one. For myself. Why do I pay so much? Because the normal paid version (20 USD a month) interrups the chats after a dozen questions and wants me to wait a few hours until I can use it again. But Teams plan gives me way more questions. But why do I pay that much? Because Claude in combination with the Projects feature, where I can upload two…

Do you not have any friends to share that with? Or share a family cell phone plan or Netflix with?

They're probably lay an adult, so I would guess not.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by CabSauce »

Balgair wrote: post #799
fudged71 wrote: post #443

OpenAI is racing against two clocks: the commoditization clock (how quickly open-source alternatives catch up) and the monetization clock (their need to generate substantial revenue to justify their valuation). The ultimate success of this strategy depends on what we might call the enterprise AI adoption curve - whether large organizations will prioritize the kind of integrated, reliable, and "safe" AI solutions Open…

One of the main issues that enterprise AI has is the data in large corporations. It's typically a nightmare of fiefdoms and filesystems. I'm sure that a lot of companies would love to use AI more, both internally and commercially. But first they'd have to wrangle their own systems so that OpenAI can ingest the data at all. Unfortunately, those are 5+ year projects for a lot of F500 companies. And they'll have to burn…

You just hit the chatGPT api for every row of data. Obviously. (Only 70% joking.)

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by benreesman »

I’m a big critic of OpenAI generally, I know a lot about their board members and it’s dim light between them and war criminals.

With that said, I strictly approve of them doing real price discovery on inference costs. Claude is dope when it doesn’t fuck up mid-response, and OpenAI is the gold standard on “you query with the token budget, you get your response”.

I’ve got a lot of respect for the folks who made it stand up to that load: it’s a new thing and it’s solid AF.

I still think we’d be fools to trust these people, but my criticisms are bounded above by acknowledging good shit and this is a good play.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by bigfudge »

aucisson_masque wrote: post #617
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #407

I just bought a pro subscription. First impressions: The new o1-Pro model is an insanely good writer. Aside from favoring the long em-dash (—) which isn't on most keyboards, it has none of the quirks and tells of old GPT-4/4o/o1. It managed to totally fool every "AI writing detector" I ran it through. It can handle unusually long prompts. It appears to be very good at complex data analysis. I need to put it through i…

> It managed to totally fool every "AI writing detector" I ran it through. For now, as ai power increase, ai powered ai writing detection tool also gets better.

I’m less sure. This seems like an asymmetrical battle with a lot more money flowing to develop the models that write than detect.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by nilsherzig »

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #800
domysee wrote: post #796

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When talking about context windows I'm surprised no one mentions https://poe.com/ . Switched over from ChatGPT about a year ago, and it's amazing. Can use all models and the full context window of them, for the same price as a ChatGPT subscription.

Poe.com goes straight to login page, doesn't want to divulge ANY information to me before I sign up. No About Us or Product description or Pricing - nothing. Strange behavior. But seeing it more and more with modern web sites.

You can take a look at openrouter, also a pay as you go frontend (or API "proxy") for every single API in existence

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by benreesman »

benreesman wrote: post #804

I’m a big critic of OpenAI generally, I know a lot about their board members and it’s dim light between them and war criminals. With that said, I strictly approve of them doing real price discovery on inference costs. Claude is dope when it doesn’t fuck up mid-response, and OpenAI is the gold standard on “you query with the token budget, you get your response”. I’ve got a lot of respect for the folks who made it stan…

Larry Summers still said put toxic waste in Africa

Altman still said do eyeball scanners in Kenya.

Fidji Simo still said pay the OSHA fines and keep killing workers.

I still want these people in The Hague.

But call their product bad when it’s not? No. The product works as advertised.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by Roark66 »

As I said before. OpenAI cannot maintain profitability unless they can increase the pricing an order of magnitude. Adding a $200 pro plan is only the first step. Expect they will also have $2k and 20$k per month plans soon and your "normal" $20 plan will curiously be worse and worse every month

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by akkad33 »

Roark66 wrote: post #808

As I said before. OpenAI cannot maintain profitability unless they can increase the pricing an order of magnitude. Adding a $200 pro plan is only the first step. Expect they will also have $2k and 20$k per month plans soon and your "normal" $20 plan will curiously be worse and worse every month

Are they profitable?

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by bobnamob »

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #800
domysee wrote: post #796

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When talking about context windows I'm surprised no one mentions https://poe.com/ . Switched over from ChatGPT about a year ago, and it's amazing. Can use all models and the full context window of them, for the same price as a ChatGPT subscription.

Poe.com goes straight to login page, doesn't want to divulge ANY information to me before I sign up. No About Us or Product description or Pricing - nothing. Strange behavior. But seeing it more and more with modern web sites.

I wouldn’t bother with Poe, poe2 early access costs $30 and starts on the 6th
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