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Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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I work for Google, and I just got done with my work day. I was just writing I guess what you'd call "AI generated code." But the code completion engine is basically just good at finishing the lines I'm writing. If I'm writing "function getAc..." it's smart enough to complete to "function getActionHandler()", and maybe suggest the correct arguments and a decent jsdoc comment. So basically, it's a helpful productivity…

Which editor is Google's AI code completion integrated with? VS Code?

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How do Google's IP lawyers feel about a quarter of the company's code not being copyrightable?

This was one of my first thoughts, too. In what ways can this contaminate their codebase? What if they use AI to add uncopyrightable code to GPL projects?

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post #537

I work for Google, and I just got done with my work day. I was just writing I guess what you'd call "AI generated code." But the code completion engine is basically just good at finishing the lines I'm writing. If I'm writing "function getAc..." it's smart enough to complete to "function getActionHandler()", and maybe suggest the correct arguments and a decent jsdoc comment. So basically, it's a helpful productivity…

So this is basically the google CEO saying "a quarter of our terminal inputs is written by a glorified tab completion"?

It would be funny if they had a metric for how much code is completed by CTRL+V

Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

#804

I work for Google, and I just got done with my work day. I was just writing I guess what you'd call "AI generated code." But the code completion engine is basically just good at finishing the lines I'm writing. If I'm writing "function getAc..." it's smart enough to complete to "function getActionHandler()", and maybe suggest the correct arguments and a decent jsdoc comment. So basically, it's a helpful productivity…

I also work at google (until last Friday). Agree with what you said. My thoughts are 1. This quote is clearly meant to exaggerate reality, and they are likely including things like fully automated CL/PR's which have been around for a decade as "AI generated". 2. I stated before that if a team of 10 is equally as productive as a team of 8 utilizing things like copilot, it's fair to say "AI replaced 2 engineers", in my…

"we've replaced X% of our workforce with AI"

Most likely what is actually happening is that the X% of workforce you would lay off is being put to other projects and Google in general can take on X% more projects for the same labor $$. So there is no real reason to make that particular "replaced" statement.

Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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To me, programming assistants have two usecases:

1. Generate unit tests for modules which are already written to be tested 2. Generate documentation for interfaces

Both of these require quite deep knowledge in what to write, then it simply documents and fills in the blanks using the context which already has been laid out.

Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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A quarter of all new code? Of course. Especially if you include all "smart autocomplete" code.

When dealing with a fermenting pile of technical debt? I expect very little. LLM's don't have application-wide context yet.

AI is definitely revolutionizing our field, but the same people that said that no-code tools and all of the other hype-of-the-decade technologies would make developers jobless are actually the people AI is making jobless.

Generate an opinion piece about how AI is going to make developers jobless, using AI? Less than a minute. And you don't need to maintain that article, once it's published, it's done.

While there's a tsunami of AI-generated almost-there projects coming that need to be moved to a shippable and sellable state. So I'm more afraid about the kind of work I'm going to get while still getting paid handsomely for my skills, than ever being jobless as the only guy that really understands the whole stack from top to bottom.

Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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I work for Google, and I just got done with my work day. I was just writing I guess what you'd call "AI generated code." But the code completion engine is basically just good at finishing the lines I'm writing. If I'm writing "function getAc..." it's smart enough to complete to "function getActionHandler()", and maybe suggest the correct arguments and a decent jsdoc comment. So basically, it's a helpful productivity…

I also work at Google and I agree with the general sentiment that AI completion is not doing engineering per se, simply because writing code is just a small part of engineering. However in my experience the system is much more powerful than you described. Maybe this is because I'm mostly writing C++ for which there is a much bigger training corpus than JavaScript. One thing the system is already pretty good at is wri…

Has anyone made a coding assistant which can do this based off audio which I’m saying out loud while I’m typing (interview/pairing style), so instead of typing the comment I can just say it?

Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

#808

I work for Google, and I just got done with my work day. I was just writing I guess what you'd call "AI generated code." But the code completion engine is basically just good at finishing the lines I'm writing. If I'm writing "function getAc..." it's smart enough to complete to "function getActionHandler()", and maybe suggest the correct arguments and a decent jsdoc comment. So basically, it's a helpful productivity…

Do people find these AI auto complete things helpful? I was trying the XCode one and it kept suggesting API calls that don't exist. I spent more time fixing its errors than I would have spent typing the correct API call.

I was evaluating it for a month and caught myself regularly switching to an IDE with non-AI intellisense because I wanted code that actually works.

Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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post #806

A quarter of all new code? Of course. Especially if you include all "smart autocomplete" code. When dealing with a fermenting pile of technical debt? I expect very little. LLM's don't have application-wide context yet. AI is definitely revolutionizing our field, but the same people that said that no-code tools and all of the other hype-of-the-decade technologies would make developers jobless are actually the people A…

At the end of the day an LLM is just a compiler anyway. The developer isn't going away even if 100% of the code is generated by LLMs, just as the developer didn't go away when we stopped spending our days flipping toggle switches.

Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI

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post #740

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(No need to Orientalize to defamiarize, especially when a huge fraction of the audience is Chinese, so Orientalizing doesn't defamiliarize. Game of Whispers or Telephone works fine.)

Do the Chinese call it English Whispers?

It’s all Greek to them.
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