Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?
I'm excited that the cost of iPhone 15's will continue to fall so I can soon eliminate lightning cables from my life. Please everyone, go out and upgrade from 15 to 16! :)
iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#802Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am an engineer at a big tech company. I’m not a “normie”. Even for me the new features aren’t compelling. They don’t really help me do anything I actually want to do. They don’t solve a problem or scratch an itch. And features change so often and so drastically I don’t really care to learn. I used to have an optical zoom but now I have super wide angle. My Fidelity widget used to show my balance but now it doesn’t…
How can you call it "solved" when such basics as text editing are broken? The dishwasher comparison is also way off, the level of dishwasher interaction is primitive and the frequency thereof is very very low, so it's much easier to tolerate bad design
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#803I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…
idk man, it feels like you are hatin' more on your girlfriend than criticising Apple.
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#804I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…
I'm a technically sophisticated user, and I don't want a new phone. I would almost certainly like it less than my current four year old phone. It would have a faster CPU, more RAM, and more storage, but it's rare I run into any of those limits. It would have a better camera than my current phone, but it would still be worse than my Olympus. It would have a bigger screen, but I wouldn't have a bigger hand and that wou…
It's just a natural maturity-curve that every new piece of tech inevitably goes through.
Tech on the maturity curve:
ICE cars: settled
EV cars: rising
PC's: settled
Phones: settled
Smart TV's: slowly rising still
Wearables: rising
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#805I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…
I've been working in tech for 25 years, and I'm sure I hardly use any of the new features. Camera? Click, maybe crop it or turn it into a loop if it's funny. I play some games on it. I browse some social crap on it. I occasionally tell Siri to set a reminder. That's... about it. I'm really not sure what else I'm supposed to be doing.
You don’t use the camera for QR codes? Fine you don’t want to scan things for information. You don’t use the image recognition in the camera app to select people and copy them out of the background? That’s fine you don’t participate selfies and party photos. To do OCR on text in photos? It’s fine that you never want it. To select e.g. plants and search for what they are on Google? It’s fine that you know what everything is/don’t care/don’t photograph plants. To search your photo library by text for things and people recognised in the pictures? Fine that you know where all your pictures are. To describe photos by voice? Fine that you have good eyesight.
You don’t use the builtin daily steps tracker, or any third party running or cycling or exercise mapping / route trackers, or any Garmin style route planners? Fine that you don’t have other devices for that kind of thing or don’t go out.
You don’t use the weather app, or a third party one? Fine that you don’t want to.
You don’t use any remote terminal, Remote Desktop, programming, Jupyter, anything? Fine that you have a laptop which does everything you need.
Kindle, any ebook reader, any podcast app? Fine that you have paper and don’t listen to posts.
Any music player? Fine that you don’t listen to music.
Any Netflix style video or TV show app, BBC iPlayer? Fine that you don’t even own a TV.
Any third party camera app such as night eyes or webcam stacking, or use the phone as a wireless webcam on another computer? Fine that you aren’t interested in photo novelties.
No Evernote or OneNote cloud synced notebooks or todo lists? Calendar? Email? Fine that you only ever write plain text in a plain text file and you don’t have meetings or appointments.
No local train, tram, bus, library, cinema, schedule app? Fine that you drive everywhere or go nowhere.
No educational apps? Fine that you learn things in other ways. No Chatgpt? Fine that you don’t ask LLMs things. No Google or phind or kagi search? Also fine.
Look, 25 years in tech, am I really writing out a list of “things people do on phones” as if I genuinely believe that you’ve never heard of any of this stuff while also adding how it’s fine because I’m totally expecting you to do the “too cool for school” dismissal of everything?
Has your 25 years in tech been Bronze Age tech? You must be 40 ish, and lived through the era of dumb phones being new and everyone talking about nothing but what contract texts and minutes they had, the time when everyone had Blackberries, the time when features were things like a compass, clock, snake game, custom ringtones, FM radio, and people were doing endless comparisons of their new phone to their old one, the first camera phones, when data went from WAP to GPRS to 2G and web browsers, when “location based services” were called out on TV adverts, and all through the smartphone years nobody ever showed you the cool app they just found, when translating foreign signs was coded in assembly on a 3GS to being just a built in thing in Google camera, when Evernote was a tech darling as people realised the cloud sync convenience, when “no Wi-Fi less space than a nomad” gave way to “all previous gadgets are now one” and the rise of smart tv and smart homes and appliances with their own apps and streaming, every app launched on “show HN” or linked,
you missed everything for fifteen years and “don’t really know what people do with phones anyway?”
That’s got to be a troll comment where you know very well what people do and are pretending not to because you look cooler if you’re disaffected and uninvolved… Right?
Why else would you have no interest in phones but be in an iPhone 16 launch thread? and think your comment on how you don’t even use a phone anyway is a good comment worth posting?
Or you have main character syndrome and think the only things which exist should be for you to use need nothing else matters?
Assume good faith… are you … hoping someone can share a list of “things phones can do?” then here is another partial one.
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#806Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you get older, the photos aren’t for you, they’re for the descendants of you and your siblings, and their communities during funerals etc. It sounds like you needed a healthy correction from too much sharing and organizing, but just a few shots will be treasured.
Come on, my grandkids won't sift through 200GB of photos. They'll look at 10-100 at most and then get bored.
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#807I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#808Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?
Do people have to "upgrade" constantly? Shouldn't the iPhone get at least a little bit better every year, even if no one "upgrades"? I often use my devices for years until they break in some way, and then I get a new one... is it really so wrong that the 2024 model is only better in ways you don't care about from the 2023 model?
Apple drip feeds features, they have realized that their business relies of making small incremental improvements to the iPhone every year so they hold back features that are bog standard in the more competitive Android world and then make a big fuss when they add it to the iPhone.
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#809Earlier quoted context omitted.
The real advancements majority of users would notice: - Get rid of green text when messaging Android phones - More battery life. - Better camera (arguably already achieved) - lesser issue but fix the stupid bugs with storage/duplication with pictures and messages. I am already paying for a TB level plan with iCloud. How can my phone possibly run out of storage? That’s it. All the AI stuff is marginal at best and usel…
> Get rid of green text when messaging Android phones I don't think iMessage is big anywhere outside the US (which appears to account for about 9% of iPhone users). I don't think a majority of global users even knows there are different colors.
Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max
#810You see a cute dog in the park, and click the special button to find out what breed it is - amazing! But I know what Steve Jobs would have said to this. Just go up and ask the girl what breed her dog is, and get to know her.