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Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Post by kragen »

kyawzazaw wrote: post #795
kragen wrote: post #740

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that sounds like a path to an unsustainable situation where your company is run by socially adept fratboys and charismatic politicians instead of hackers, with company leadership insulated from actual facts on the ground by many layers of middle managers with strong incentives to lie? even if those incremental engineers are generating more value at first, they won't be able to continue doing so when most of the compa…

too much assumptions in the first sentence

possibly, but it certainly seems to be a common failure mode

Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Post by belorn »

braza wrote: post #118

Not a moralistic take, but one issue that interests me is the second-order impacts associated with the long tail of producers in OF who do not make a career from it. With traditional adult entertainment, creators are aware of the social ramifications (e.g., social stigma, familial ostracism, difficulty dealing with the future, and so on), and there is a decent theoretical economic framework to measure that. I am not…

I would find it very interesting if there was a study done on second order impacts of porn producers. I suspect the outcome would be the opposite of the assumed, as in I suspect the average creator has an above average outcome compare to others with similar demographic and social economic status.

I am reminded of the study done on the damaged goods hypothesis, which gave a negative on that hypothesis. Not only did porn actresses not have higher rate of childhood sexual abuse, but they rated higher than the average in terms of self-esteem, positive feelings, and social support. (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23167939/)

Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Post by tharkun__ »

mrgoldenbrown wrote: post #431
makeitdouble wrote: post #415

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> it feels like you're being treated uniquely... But most times you are not. That's just any customer business. When you go buy a house it feels like the agent is really looking at your personal circumstances and trying hard to be your friend. When you go cut your hair the staff will remember your name and ask about your day. Your dentist will keep track of your operations, personalize your care and make sure you're…

The first time my dental hygienist asked a small talk question referencing something I said last visit, I was impressed by their memory/vaguely flattered . The second time it happened I was pretty sure they're just writing notes about what to say in my record. Especially when the new hygienist did the same trick :)

I hate it when a dental hygienist small talks. I'm there to get my teeth done not to talk. If I talk, they can't do their job. Personally I have no need for small talk. So I'm just doing it to please them.

Now, the waiter at our office lunch restaurant that we went to like every 2 or 3 weeks knowing exactly what each of us would order and even the ones that alternated between 2 or 3 dishes he'd ask "oh is it the butter chicken or the chicken tikka today?" makes sense and is impressive and appreciated. He didn't do any non essential small talk instead of doing his job either.

On the other hand you have restaurants where you're a table for two and the guy doesn't remember who had which dish when serving in a basically empty restaurant.

Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Post by djbusby »

trackflak wrote: post #556
djbusby wrote: post #249

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> If you sell your body That's how all labor works.

It doesn't matter whether I write a module in Fortran, fold laundry or sell a kidney on the black market. It's all morally equivalent!

Selling a kidney is less like labour than two.

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Post by AtlasBarfed »

merrywhether wrote: post #489
AtlasBarfed wrote: post #404

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Are action or horror movies exploitation of the biological adrenaline drive? Every leisure activity is appealing to more than just hyper-rational thought.

Are action/horror movies addictive?

Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Post by matrix87 »

standardUser wrote: post #401
kwhitefoot wrote: post #190

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> the additional toll it will take on the creators in terms of social ostracism, future prospects, future opportunities, and mental health. Is it such a big problem nowadays as it used to be? My impression is that society in general, and younger people in particular, have become more tolerant of such things; at least in Northern Europe.

What toll exactly do you expect people to have to pay? I've been naked on the internet for money. That content is still there. It has not impacted me adversely in any way, nor has it had a negative impact on the many women I know who have created adult content. If anything, for me it has been fun and liberating. I think you're just projecting.

Some jobs have more of those expectations. If you don't have to worry about them that just reflects your own advantageous position

Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Post by matrix87 »

jappgar wrote: post #277
braza wrote: post #118

Not a moralistic take, but one issue that interests me is the second-order impacts associated with the long tail of producers in OF who do not make a career from it. With traditional adult entertainment, creators are aware of the social ramifications (e.g., social stigma, familial ostracism, difficulty dealing with the future, and so on), and there is a decent theoretical economic framework to measure that. I am not…

The problem here is that ceratain members of our society think sexuality is immoral and that sex performers deserve ostracism. The idea that someone shouldn't be hired for a job because they have/had an OF is puritanism plain and simple. I expect that fewer people actually care about the "morality" and simply want to use morals as a weapon against women in the workplace.

It isn't that sex itself is immoral. Sex work has a lot of different forms

Some forms are a lot more taxing on both mental and physical health (plus STD risk). OF doesn't have this same level of risk but people mentally lump it all together

The morals are there for a reason, they just lack nuance

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Post by refurb »

darkr wrote: post #735
makeitdouble wrote: post #415

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> it feels like you're being treated uniquely... But most times you are not. That's just any customer business. When you go buy a house it feels like the agent is really looking at your personal circumstances and trying hard to be your friend. When you go cut your hair the staff will remember your name and ask about your day. Your dentist will keep track of your operations, personalize your care and make sure you're…

Americans are weird. I’ve been going to the same barber for years. He doesn’t know my name, barely says a word and it’s just so comforting.

It’s weird to be friendly?

Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Post by matrix87 »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #540
highcountess wrote: post #326

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Not enough people point out the connection between hacking the male libido and powerful forces operating in the shadows with an agenda. Men get so stupid when they think with their member instead of their brain. This is well known by your local spymaster, and all nerdy HN types should be extremely suspicious of beautiful women asking them questions. Femme fatales and honeypots are some of the lowest cost, easiest way…

I mean, isn't that part of the game though? If you don't want to play then don't
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