Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport

Post by lukan » Sun, Aug 25, 2024, 10:28 AM UTC

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"Why do you want your country to have access to your private thoughts and opinions? " Anyone who does not want that, should stay away from Telegram in the first place - an app that stores all your private messages unencrypted for the company to read. All your interactions on any channel ever - all their data. All this is about is sharing that data with the western governments. The russian government already has it fo…

> The russian government already has it for example. With the situation in Ukraine being what it is, wouldn't they be cracking down on Telegram usage in their country if this were true? They don't seem to be doing so, and the usage seems to be quite high.

Post by Ray20 » Sun, Aug 25, 2024, 10:33 AM UTC

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Why stop there? By your logic, the owners of every ISP that provides a pathway for those criminal bits also should be in jail. Every single organization in that pathway would be liable from the registrars to the developers of web libraries or other app services. The governments themselves would be liable in many cases where the government has nationalized internet services. There is a principle in the free world that…

> Why stop there? Because we want to, and we can. I don't get how HN consistently fails to understand the actual social and political process by which regulations are made. I constantly see this argument which effectively boils down to "if you ban a thing, you will also need to ban everything else, which is absurd, so you shouldn't ban anything". But in real life we can choose what we ban. Everything is a trade-off;…

Post by toofy » Sun, Aug 25, 2024, 10:36 AM UTC

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lately when i see arguments like yours one thing keeps popping into my head. i’m not sure how i feel about the following yet but it’s been on my mind a bit for the past couple of years: if someone is incapable of making good faith genuine attempts to mitigate against atrocious things happening openly in the property they control, then isn’t this fairly solid evidence they’re just not capable of owning that property?…

"The property" you mean the council housing where all the ganging, killing, raping and terror plotting occurs, right? Sure, the administration of said council should be jailed ASAP.

Post by hkpack » Sun, Aug 25, 2024, 10:38 AM UTC

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It's hard to respond to some of the commentary here. We truly exist mentally on different planets. The West wants Telegram destroyed because the platform permits the sharing of information and ideas that are in opposition to Western domestic and foreign policy(Israel, Ukraine, China etc). This is in addition to the West not having a backdoor to Telegram and not having it's servers on Western soil. Why do you want you…

Telegram's data centers are located in USA, Netherlands and Singapore

Post by Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe » Sun, Aug 25, 2024, 10:39 AM UTC

sansii wrote: post #781

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I find it highly amusing that people on here actually think secure messaging platforms are "locally backdoored". Despite what the article says, Telegram is not even a nominally end-to-end encrypted platform. You need to jump through hoops to get end-to-end encryption on the platform.

"You need to jump through hoops to get end-to-end encryption on the platform." What do you mean by this?