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Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

hparadiz wrote: post #693
AlbertCory wrote: post #638

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In fact I know a retired guy who moved to Maui, and then moved back. The principal reason was the saying they have, "If you have a pain, get on a plane." You might get served in Honolulu. Quite often you're flying to the mainland, though. That said, living right in the city isn't necessary at all. The 'burbs have almost every facility you could want.

I lived in Maui for a year and it was always in the back of my mind that my link to civilization was basically one road. And my apartment was just north of Lahaina. That said I watched my dad die of cancer and let's just say he would have been better off chillin' on a beach or a balcony staring out into the ocean. The doctors couldn't really do anything other than misdiagnose him and then put him on meds way too late…

It almost makes retiring to Southeast Asia reasonable. Yes, you don’t get Medicare, but then paying out of pocket reasonable prices for medical services means you aren’t eating for anything either, plus you get the beach and affordable everything else living. As long as you don’t get cancer.

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Post by propogandist »

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You think the engineers at Tesla and SpaceX, who have created jaw dropping technical marvels, don’t respect themselves? I’m not saying Musk isn’t an asshole, I don’t know him. And I’m willing to guess you don’t either. But it’s real hard to argue that his companies haven’t done amazing engineering results.

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Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by devTen85 »

pyeri wrote: post #781
hintymad wrote: post #412

There is a famous paper about the location of company headquarters: they get as close as possible to the residence of company CEOs. If we don't consider the CEO's influence, I'm actually curious if the location of company headquarters has to do with the average age of the employees in the Bay Area. As the employees start to have families, they most likely move to the south bay for better or for worse, and I have a ha…

Here in India, it's a wide mystery why most startups prefer to headquarter in Bangalore. It made sense two decades ago but today there are several other Indian cities like Vizag, Nasik, Noida, Gurugram, Chandigarh, etc. which are more equipped, have better infrastructure and even lower cost of living. Still most folks prefer Bangalore just because it has been like that since ages and popularly called the "IT Hub". Bu…

It's a chicken & Egg problem. I run a startup in Pune, and we just don't get good developers here. We are open to remote, and most of the good candidates are in Bangalore.

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Post by warkdarrior »

sleepybrett wrote: post #576
janalsncm wrote: post #371

Had a recruiter call with Twitter a few months ago. Mandatory in office 5 days per week. Among other things, an hour commute both ways to work was not acceptable. Maybe they will have better luck in Santa Clara. I don’t buy any of the flamebait reasons for leaving SF. Reason 1 is money and reason 2 is talent pool.

I mean reason #1 is probably that they are getting evicted right? Didn't elon stop paying rent?

Paying rent is a woke mind virus, so Elon would never go for that. Fight the oppression!

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

bluGill wrote: post #534
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Cities' attractiveness feels u-shaped Young adults love it bc they have the time to go to bars/restaurants/clubs Middle aged folks hate it because they're so busy - they can't take advantage, and other people get in their way (some) Older folks like it again bc they have the time to go to restaurants/theater

Middle ages folks hate it because they are most likely to have kids and cities (in the US) tend to be kid hostile. What I'm calling city below is probably better described as downtown - most cities extend out farther and have areas that are nothing like what follows - but are also nothing like what you described as what people move to the city for. Parks in the city tend to be focused on art. They often lack kid basi…

> Parks in the city tend to be focused on art. They often lack kid basics like swings and sand. They tend to be too small for a ball game. Often the people who are there will yell at kids for running off the path, yelling and the other ways kids play.

This doesn’t describe Seattle or any other city I’ve lived in. We literally have 3 huge ball fields within walking distance of my town home, all full up on weekends and even most weekday nights with soccer, baseball, etc…

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Post by zamfi »

weitendorf wrote: post #611
zamfi wrote: post #577

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Acquisitions.

Not the case with the main Google SF office (except now some buildings are indeed the results of acquisitions) but definitely for San Bruno and varied for the other ones.

Yeah, like almost every other central-city engineering office of that era, SF was initially a sales office that SF-resident ICs would sometimes work from on Fridays...and then more often, and then eventually teams wanted to move there, and then...and then...

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Post by warkdarrior »

spiderice wrote: post #775
MSFT_Edging wrote: post #440

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Cities tend to have a lower per-capita crime rate, it's just dense and visible. This is just suburban paranoia. Crime happens.

According to who? Do you have a source? Top violent crime rate per capita US cities [1]: 1. St. Louis 2. Detroit 3. Baltimore 4. Memphis 5. Kansas City If we include all crime and not just violent crime, it’s still all large cities at the top. Not sure where you’re getting your info. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities...

That list is of the 100 most populous cities in US, so by definition it does not include mid/small cities, towns, and villages.

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Post by CalChris »

qingcharles wrote: post #794
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I lived in San Francisco in the very late 70s through to the 00s. My first apartment share was $50/mo. The late 70s had the dying embers of the Beat Generation and San Francisco was a sleepy town. San Francisco was great in the 80s with a ton of theater, music, dance, art, everything. It was good in the 90s although the late 90s dotcom boom pushed/priced artists out. The 00s became pretty boring and compressed. I mov…

What are your thoughts on Oakland now?

Oakland is more affordable for artists now than San Francisco but not even close to what San Francisco was in the 80s. But it's a very different time. I find myself occasionally trying to relive that and having to remind myself it's gone.

Oakland has crime now but 80s San Francisco had the drug wars with actual machine gun battles between the now gone high rise projects on Army (now Caesar Chavez).

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Post by shiroiushi »

optymizer wrote: post #199
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> Who cares? > They should know better and the best have already left or been culled. We should care, even if it's just a little. Some of them may not be able to leave for various reasons: health, family, immigration status, who knows. Maybe if more of us showed a bit more empathy towards each other online, the Internet wouldn't be such a sociopathic cesspool. These are real people you're talking about, not inanimate…

How do you feel about the contractors on the Death Star?
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