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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by DennisAleynikov »

e-_pusher wrote: post #291
aidenn0 wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So this is a trans-reflective LCD screen? Does it invert the colors when backlit? It's about 50% heavier than rM2; the battery is almost triple the capacity of rM2; I assume these are related and both due to the use of LCD over eInk? How many shades of gray?

Source: I was the chief hw engineer for this device. The colors do not invert when the backlight is on, which is great because you can turn on only a slight amount of backlight if you need it, and have it blend to the ambient lighting. It supports 256 levels of grayscale.

The large battery also helps it last longer and accounts for the much more powerful chip compared to the remarkable

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by robxorb »

cdrini wrote: post #750
robxorb wrote: post #649

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Killed my trust also, "drowning in launch" is no excuse for not rectifying this immediately. Posting a real-time video right now would take five minutes and clear up all this bad publicity right when they need to.

The page where the videos are from isn't meant to be marketing material. It's a documentation page for people who already have the tablet -- the page says "Welcome to Your Daylight Computer". I personally have no qualms if some of the videos there are sped up, and it has no bearing on my trust of the company. If you want the promotional videos actually advertising/backing the display claims, check out the main websit…

Many of us seem to have ended up at that documentation page out of exasperation, as we couldn't find video examples on the main page.

It appears that portrait vs landscape on their main page, on mobile at least, conceals that promo video (which does appear to show realtime footage).

If you happen to visit in the wrong orientation (or whatever other variables hide the video) and see claims of speed, but conspicuously absent proof, and then discover quietly sped-up videos buried in the docs, it all starts to feel scammy.

Given e-ink has a history of all kinds of shenanigans, and given I believe this company launched then unlaunched this product a few weeks ago (setting videos to private), it's not surprising some of us are on a hair-trigger.

Anyway, having seen decent enough video now, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. If this is for real, it will be of huge benefit to many who struggle with artificial light sensitivity, and I'm sure they'll do well.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by DennisAleynikov »

andrewmutz wrote: post #740
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Can you use VS Code on it? Presumably using a remote back end like github codespaces?

Yes and you could use vscode.dev to edit local files as well

Source: (I have been doing it all along on the daylight during development)

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by chias »

Nifty3929 wrote: post #781
cookiengineer wrote: post #513

This is really a nice product, but I won't order it unless SolOS and its firmware and drivers are open sourced. I've probably spent far more than 8000 bucks over the years for devices like this, only to have to throw them away eventually because their software got abandoned and they've been so proprietary that they can only function as an expensive brick on the shelf. If the software is closed source, I'd recommend e…

I think you're missing out. A different perspective is to just see these devices as temporary and enjoy them for as long as they last. Let's say you can expect 2 years from the device, and it costs $480. That's $20/mo - maybe that's worth it or maybe it's not for any particular device. But at least you can make the choice that way.

I think this way of looking at it is valid, although I don't personally like it very much because it generates a large amount of e-waste.

Regardless, using your model on this device: it costs $725, and if you buy now, won't ship until September. So if you assume 2 years from the device starting today, that's about $35/month.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by PCP7 »

Nifty3929 wrote: post #781
cookiengineer wrote: post #513

This is really a nice product, but I won't order it unless SolOS and its firmware and drivers are open sourced. I've probably spent far more than 8000 bucks over the years for devices like this, only to have to throw them away eventually because their software got abandoned and they've been so proprietary that they can only function as an expensive brick on the shelf. If the software is closed source, I'd recommend e…

I think you're missing out. A different perspective is to just see these devices as temporary and enjoy them for as long as they last. Let's say you can expect 2 years from the device, and it costs $480. That's $20/mo - maybe that's worth it or maybe it's not for any particular device. But at least you can make the choice that way.

I don't know how you came up with this mentality, but its really consumer hostile IMO. You are buying a device not a service.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by seanalltogether »

circuit10 wrote: post #751
seanalltogether wrote: post #632

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These types of displays use power to change the pixels, but almost nothing to retain the existing image, so battery life will be wildly variable depending on how you're using it. Browsing the web with nonstop animations versus reading a book will probably show massive swings in battery life.

This isn’t e-ink, it’s a transflective LCD so that’s not true here

It's not e-ink, but it appears to be the same as Sharps "memory" display, which means it continues to show an image even after power is removed. They have extremely low power draw when displaying static pixels

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by jasonlotito »

rattray wrote: post #433
boochiboo12 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

we've built our own PDF parser / renderer, so we have a pretty good beta PDF reader app we're building next up would be epub reader / support and then building our own notetaker & typewriter app (though google docs, lex.page, IA writer are pretty good) and many more services and apps, like actually finally good handwriting recognition

Is the kindle app not supported?

Is Kindle on Android? Yes.

These are the apps they are specifically building. But all Android apps are availabe for it as well.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by hurril »

tern wrote: post #554
hurril wrote: post #534

Happily interested in this, I discover that they have broken the scrolling on the homepage about this for reasons. This tells me that since they have never tried their own homepage, they don't really care about usability so their product is probably not going to be very good.

As someone who had input on the website, I can say we're very concerned about that and aiming to fix it as soon as possible. Honestly, we just didn't get it right before the launch.

Why are you even doing anything with the scrolling? Something someone can do in JavaScript in a WebPage is better than the implementation in my touch pad on my Mac?
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