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Re: Meta Horizon OS

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>Alas, it is just stuff built on top of Android, which is built on top of the Linux kernel. Look into HarmonyOS, Fuchsia, LionsOS, Managarm, Haiku and Genode.

And Qubes OS.

Qubes relies on Linux, huge TCB.

Refer to Makatea[0] for Qubes reimagined on a less flawed architecture.

0. https://trustworthy.systems/projects/makatea/

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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Yes, open like that. I thought we'd already established the sense in which Open Group is open, but you still haven't addressed the question how Meta is open in the same sense.

Just like a Open Group membership, it is open to the set of self selected partners.

So where can e.g. a student apply for membership to access the Meta Horizon OS standards and how much does it cost?

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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At one point in time the React/React Native teams put out a blog post devoid of any actual details about “multi platform” support and mentioned VR in it. I’m surprised I haven’t hear anything else about it since.

Yeah it's kind of mind-boggling to me that the creators of React (which SwiftUI is ofc heavily inspired by) and the most successful cross-platform quasi-native library (React Native), have not managed to bring those powers to their biggest investment. I truly don't get it.

I wonder if it's being used internally? Just looked back on the blog post and they actually say "Although most of the development for VR will still be internal, we hope to share more as soon as we can. We also anticipate that improvements to React Native for VR will surface in open source." Makes me wonder if possibly they are using it to create some app themselves, would be interesting to decompile some APKs and see.

https://reactnative.dev/blog/2021/08/26/many-platform-vision

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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Nexus was supposed to be reference platform with a harmless quirk or two, not necessarily low or high end. The idea was everyone builds for Nexus and apps run everywhere.

Maybe "lower end" isn't quite accurate, but the point I was getting across was that Google wasn't competing for the high end market.

But they were though, they just weren't good at it yet

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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And Qubes OS.

Qubes relies on Linux, huge TCB. Refer to Makatea[0] for Qubes reimagined on a less flawed architecture. 0. https://trustworthy.systems/projects/makatea/

It doesn't rely on Linux, it relies on Xen and hardware virtualization: https://www.qubes-os.org/faq/#why-does-qubes-use-xen-instead...

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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Am I the only weirdo who does not want, under any circumstance, to move to a world where head-mounted computer systems are normal? It's bad enough we have the things in our pockets. I don't want mine mounted in front of my eyes. I can hear the replies already, "If you don't want one, don't use one," but if something becomes normal enough, the outside world does change around it. Why invest in street signs, for exampl…

It's only a natural extension of the things that we have in our pocket. I would rather be immersed in the whole virtual world rather than stare at a 7 inch screen for a large part of my day. Lets face it, we spend considerable amounts of time in front of a screen. A bigger and more immersive screen will be a better experience for everyone.

> It's bad enough we have the things in our pockets.

I'm sticking with this line of reasoning. This is already bad enough. I do not think more of it will make things better.

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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Am I the only weirdo who does not want, under any circumstance, to move to a world where head-mounted computer systems are normal? It's bad enough we have the things in our pockets. I don't want mine mounted in front of my eyes. I can hear the replies already, "If you don't want one, don't use one," but if something becomes normal enough, the outside world does change around it. Why invest in street signs, for exampl…

Just giving an anecdotal response that I am very much the opposite. I'm absolutely thrilled for that future. There's something magical about that blend of real + digital that to me feels more human than sitting behind a desk and staring at a screen. It will definitely be a cultural change though, and I totally get how that can be almost repulsive from a different perspective. I just want you to be aware though that t…

Why is the comparison to "sitting behind a computer stating at a screen" and not "going outside"?

If these only replace desk work, I might agree with you. My fear is that wearing them full-time becomes normalized.

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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Am I the only weirdo who does not want, under any circumstance, to move to a world where head-mounted computer systems are normal? It's bad enough we have the things in our pockets. I don't want mine mounted in front of my eyes. I can hear the replies already, "If you don't want one, don't use one," but if something becomes normal enough, the outside world does change around it. Why invest in street signs, for exampl…

You have no choice, so no point worrying about it.

Just because I can't stop a ship from sinking, it doesn't mean there's no point to trying to get off of it and encourage others I might reach to do the same.

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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Am I the only weirdo who does not want, under any circumstance, to move to a world where head-mounted computer systems are normal? It's bad enough we have the things in our pockets. I don't want mine mounted in front of my eyes. I can hear the replies already, "If you don't want one, don't use one," but if something becomes normal enough, the outside world does change around it. Why invest in street signs, for exampl…

I fondly remember the times where Glassholes were rightfully mocked. Now it's cool to drive around in your Tesla wearing an Apple Vision. It really seems to have become very normalized.

Google Glass still stands out as the only thing I can ever remember encountering that made me think, "Wow, that's even too dorky for me."

I dislike Apple's version for other reasons, but for something to out-dork me really takes a lot.

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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post #36

Am I the only weirdo who does not want, under any circumstance, to move to a world where head-mounted computer systems are normal? It's bad enough we have the things in our pockets. I don't want mine mounted in front of my eyes. I can hear the replies already, "If you don't want one, don't use one," but if something becomes normal enough, the outside world does change around it. Why invest in street signs, for exampl…

For what it's worth, we are many decades away from this being the new normal in daily life. It'll more likely start to chip away at iPad and computer sales though. As for your examples, such as maps/encyclopedias, they still do even in the smartphone age. >Or why make anything actually aesthetically pleasing if 98% of the people who are going to interact with it will see it through a digital lens, where you can chang…

I've wondered for a long time what things my grandchildren's generation will take for granted and not be able to live without.

I'll consider it a tragedy if it ends up being the case that they can't imagine having grown up actually seeing the real world.

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