OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

Post by x0x0 » Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 5:55 PM UTC

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #632

nostrademons wrote: post #551

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Could be a way to get backdoor-acquihired by Microsoft without a diligence process or board approval. Open up what they have accomplished for public consumption; kick off a massive hype cycle; downplay the problems around hallucinations and abuse; negotiate fat new stock grants for everyone at Microsoft at the peak of the hype cycle; and now all the problems related to actually making this a sustainable, legal techno…

I can assure you, none of the people at OpenAI are hurting for lack of employment opportunities.

Post by sroussey » Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 5:58 PM UTC

LonelyWolfe wrote: post #626

breadwinner wrote: post #51

If they join Sam Altman and Greg Brockman at Microsoft they will not need to start from scratch because Microsoft has full rights [1] to ChatGPT IP. They can just fork ChatGPT. Also keep in mind that Microsoft hasn't actually given OpenAI $13 Billion because much of that is in the form of Azure credits. So this could end up being the cheapest acquisition for Microsoft: They get a $90 Billion company for peanuts. [1]…

Just a thought.... Wouldn't one of the board members be like "If you screw with us any further we're releasing gpt to the public" I'm wondering why that option hasn't been used yet.

Post by itchyouch » Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 5:58 PM UTC

ramesh31 wrote: post #449

dmix wrote: post #278

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OpenAI's upper ceiling in for-profit hands is basically Microsoft-tier dominance of tech in the 1990s, creating the next uber billionaire like Gates. If they get this because of an OpenAI fumble it could be one of the most fortunate situations in business history. Vegas type odds. A good example of how just having your foot in the door creates serendipitous opportunity in life.

>A good example of how just having your foot in the door creates serendipitous opportunity in life. Sounds like Altman's biography.

Post by Schroedingers2c » Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 5:58 PM UTC

jurgenaut23 wrote: post #785

If I weren't so adverse to conspiracy theories, I would think that this is all a big "coup" by Microsoft: Ilya conspired with Microsoft and Altman to get him fired by the board, just to make it easy for Microsoft to hire him back without fear of retaliation, along with all the engineers that would join him in the process. Then, Ilya would apologize publicly for "making a huge mistake" and, after some period, would jo…

Post by Vervious » Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 5:59 PM UTC

bredren wrote: post #760

JeremyNT wrote: post #464

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There's no way to read any of this other than that the entire operation is a clown show. All respect to the engineers and their technical abilities, but this organization has demonstrated such a level of dysfunction that there can't be any path back for it. Say MS gets what it wants out of this move, what purpose is there in keeping OpenAI around? Wouldn't they be better off just hiring everybody? Is it just some kin…

There's a path back from this disfunction but my sense before this new twist was that the drama had severely impacted OpenAI as an industry leader. The product and talent positioning seemed ahead by years only to get destroyed by unforced errors. This instability can only mean the industry as a whole will move forward faster. Competitors see the weakness and will push harder. OpenAI will have a harder time keeping se…