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Can you give me an idea as to why WEI is a bad idea for the web? Granted, it is morning, but as I am going through the notes linked ( https://googlechrome.github.io/OriginTrials/developer-guide.... ), I am not sure I understand why it is that bad.
I predict that hardware attestation will in 10-30 years become a requirement to maintain an internet connection. Given Microsoft's push to make their OS support hardware attestation as well as Google's push for technologies which use hardware attestation in broader and broader scopes (Android and iOS has supported this for apps for a long time), the technology to make this possible is increasingly becoming widespread…
> I predict that hardware attestation will in 10-30 years become a requirement to maintain an internet connection. What you fail to take into account, is that geeks like being able to freely goof around with stuff; and that new disruptive tech evolves precisely in the ecosystems where geeks are goofing around with stuff. Consider the dichotomy between iPadOS and macOS. macOS still exists — and still has things like t…
There’s a saying, on the internet nobody knows you’re a dog. WEI is part of a broader movement to make this false - more generally to make an internet where we know you are a human staring at a screen It turns out having dogs (or more commonly programs and scripts) on the internet is not profitable and not good for business, so corporations want to take dogs off their websites by finding clever ways to attest that a…
The whole narrative about WEI "proving" you're a human is completely false (and I'd argue a ruse). It only proves you're using a sanctioned OS and browser binary. It does nothing to stop robots being wired-up to devices w/ emulated inputs. In fact, WEI will make it easier to use a robot w/ a sanctioned software stack since, hey, it's a "human" per WEI.
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Nothing will happen. People have been making the same complaints about every new crypto standard for decades, and yet here we are. TPMs are a thing, EME has been around for over a decade now, DRM on the web is as pervasive as it's ever going to get, and yet no one's user experience is any worse than it was before these technologies existed.
Yes, and I am still unable to play 4K Netflix on a PC that has been able to play 4K videos for about 7 years now. It's permanently blocked to prevent piracy, or something, mumble, mumble...
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Mozilla is dead as a doornail. Google succeeded where Microsoft did not, they essentially control the entire web now.
San Francisco salaries and the removal of Brendan Eich is what happened to Mozilla not Google and Microsoft.
Disappointing to see such a 180 on 'don't be evil'. I'm recommending Mozilla Firefox to all friends and family.
I was just able to finally move my wife back to Firefox. Chrome just stopped working on her Mac. Wouldn't pull up a page. Everything else worked. She's now happily using Firefox with a non-hobbled version of uBlock Origin.
Because I could say chrome always works for me (which would be true in my experience), but that doesn’t mean it always does.
I predict that hardware attestation will in 10-30 years become a requirement to maintain an internet connection. Given Microsoft's push to make their OS support hardware attestation as well as Google's push for technologies which use hardware attestation in broader and broader scopes (Android and iOS has supported this for apps for a long time), the technology to make this possible is increasingly becoming widespread…
> I predict that hardware attestation will in 10-30 years become a requirement to maintain an internet connection. What you fail to take into account, is that geeks like being able to freely goof around with stuff; and that new disruptive tech evolves precisely in the ecosystems where geeks are goofing around with stuff. Consider the dichotomy between iPadOS and macOS. macOS still exists — and still has things like t…
The companies have an imperative, since I guess calling it a vested interest would be an understatement, to not let you escape from their clutches.
They can't force you to come inside, and they can't force you to stay, but they can make it so that it's almost impossible to go anywhere where they are not already there. It's creepy and predatory vulpine super stalker behavior, but unless we establish a system of government that puts our desires above theirs there is not much we can do about it other than stay away to the best of our abilities.
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...and Microsoft has more power than Google at the moment
But anti-trust stalled Microsoft's efforts at a critical time and allowed Firefox and Safari (like Gecko) to restore a standards-based web from an IE-based web. It's not a cure all but it worked. IE had 95% marketshare in 2002 and Firefox took a third of that from them in a few years thanks to anti-trust and the consent decree it forced on MS.
Given that it's open-source and anyone can roll and distribute a tweaked version of Chromium (and many have, notably Microsoft), it's really hard to see an argument here that Google is acting anti-competitively. If anything it's very pro-competitive to give away your secret sauce to your competitors.
Just because their browser is more popular than you would like, and you don't like a feature they're adding, doesn't mean a judge is going to stop them from adding it.
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That was in 2001. It wouldn't happen today - see Apple and their walled garden.
Antitrust authorities in both US and EU are literally fighting these monopolies right now , with huge fines and increasingly vicious inquiries. Don't be defeatist.
We need deep changes in the regulation and breaking up of those companies that are "too big to fail" and have too much power.
Mozilla should call for Google's removal from the W3C over this implementation of Web Environment Integrity. "But Chrome has 65% market share, what good is the W3C without them?” If Google can take unilateral action to fundamentally change the basic principles of the web, then the W3C is already useless. This will give Google a clear choice: if they want to maintain the idea that the W3C matters, they should withdraw…
> It is unbelievable that over the course of 3 days, the potential future of the web has been put in such dire straits. "Move fast and break things." How many here used to cheer this approach?