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Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by feanaro »

flakeoil wrote: post #745
veb wrote: post #345

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Get this, if you use Edge, with bing as search by default and join the waitlist, then another button appears "get access faster" or something, which then takes you to a page to make sure you've defaulted everything to Microsoft, and you've scanned a QR code to download a Bing mobile app. I can't be bothered _all_ of that. Mainly the addition of a new mobile app.

The anti-trust laws have to stop Microsoft before it's too late. People complain about Google and Facebook, but the big evil today is Microsoft.

I think they're all big evils.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by replwoacause »

I just watched the highlights from the Microsoft reveal, and it was incredibly dull. Their presentation was so uninspiring that I had to close it and move on. It's strange how they managed to take something exciting and make it so uninteresting. Oh, and I tried it out and wasn't impressed either.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by [deleted] »

Grum9 wrote: post #662
qwertox wrote: post #608

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"Join the waiting list" is what turned me off. I'm already trying hard enough to use Windows 11 without a Microsoft account (local only) so that I'm definitely not signing into Bing on Edge. Next step they'll require me to link the OS to it.

I recently setup a new laptop for someone with windows 11 and was surprised how easy it was to get around the online account stuff. The wifi was on when I hit the account setup part, I didnt want to make an account for someone else (name an email and password for someone else, what a mess, no thanks), so I powered the router down. The account screen didnt seem to give any options at all to work around it and make a l…

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Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by phillade »

calderknight wrote: post #515
epups wrote: post #80

This is a potentially momentous occasion here. Microsoft is betting hard that they can mount a challenge to Google, and I think ChatGPT can credibly attempt that. The answer from Google so far is weak. The thought that Bing may actually overtake Google would be hilarious a few months ago, and now it looks... possible?

Bing isn't going to overtake Google any time soon. So many devices, browsers, and people default to using Google. By the time Bing starts picking up steam, Google will have copied whatever features that were setting Bing apart.

The Bard announcement in Google Paris was way too rushed. In the long run, I agree with you on this. I think Google still has a good advantage being the default and preferred search engine for many. After trying ChatGPT, I can say for sure this technology is life changing. However Google might still lag behind on the programming expertise since Microsoft owns Github. Also it costs an absolute fortune to train and deploy the Chat AI if billions of search queries are performed every day. Since ChatGPT already has achieved product market fit with 100m users, I'm sure subscription models would work if search advertising can't pay for all the additional costs associated with hosting the chat AI.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by jamiek88 »

TMWNN wrote: post #561
iggldiggl wrote: post #368

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It seems to have inherited Chrome's amnesiac address bar search. Firefox never has any trouble showing appropriate search results from my local history, whereas on the occasional occasion that I need to test something with Edge, it's always a crapshoot whether the address bar search will return anything at all, or (with live search suggestions disabled) stay maddeningly empty, even when the page in question is defini…

>It seems to have inherited Chrome's amnesiac address bar search. On the other hand, I'm surprised to see that on MacOS Edge properly shows the search/URL bar in full screen if I move the cursor to the top of the screen or push Command-L, something Chrome *still* can't do without enabling "Always Show Toolbar in Full Screen", which I don't want. This alone, plus Edge being compatible with all Chrome extensions, might…

Hmm. This annoyed me about chrome too. As well as the constant default nags and the battery hit on macOS.

I like safari, always have done. But for those sites that are ~~IE6~~ Chrome debugged only I think I’ll start dropping into Edge instead of Chrome.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by zzzeek »

alas44 wrote: post #372
zzzeek wrote: post #324

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they'd have to get ChatGPT to stop spewing up made up bullshit and fake academic citations first, which I think is a bit of a bigger problem than many seem to be considering. the outcome will still be hilarious though, so it's win win for the onlookers I guess edit: all the responses here who think the garbage is "just fine, at least it's not SEO" are similarly hilarious. as though SEO would not be polluting the AI a…

Wait and see, it seems this is not the exact same model than ChatGPT and it is able to cite sources

OK, we've waited...six days! and we have this:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34775853

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by napier »

nailer wrote: post #752
napier wrote: post #738

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The cordyceps-like elegance of using Googles core browser tech and foundational LLM research to try and flip the tables on them feels to me quintessentially Microsoft going back to it's roots behaviour.

Technically it's KDE's browser tech, that Apple, Google, Brave, Microsoft and others contributed to. People sometimes talk like Google made Blink out of thin air.

Good point.
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