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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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$20/mo, for the people in this situation, is not an amount of money worth thinking about.

Your perception of money really isn't consistent with the vast majority, I'd imagine. Frivolously throwing money at unnecessary subscriptions isn't something for me.

You get to call this frivolous, but my perception of money isn't consistent?

Interesting.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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For me, ChatGPT also has a psychological benefit. It makes me feel like there’s someone that I can fall back on when I‘m stuck. It might be wrong (often the bot is not super helpful), but this is not about rationality.

I'm finding ChatGPT may be wrong, but it's answers are often enough to point me in the right direction - particularly when I'm working in a new domain where I'm not yet experienced enough to be able to ask google the right questions. Previously I'd fall back to asking in a forum and getting a (tbf) much better answer a few hours or days later, but ChatGPT may be enough to point me in the right direction in a few minu…

Well put, it’s really similar for me.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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I've been using ChatGPT pretty consistently during the workday and have found it useful for open ended programming questions, "cleaning up" rough bullet points into a coherent paragraph of text, etc. $20/month useful is questionable though, especially with all the filters. My "in between" solution has been to configure BetterTouchTool (Mac App) with a hotkey for "Transform & Replace Selection with Javascript". This i…

> And it's cheaper than $20/month, Since the $20/month is for priority access to new features and priority access including during high-load times, not API access (a separatr offering not yet available), I don't understand the cost comparison. What you are proposing does not substitute for any part of the $20/month offering over the basic free product.

The API already still works in peak times. That's not exclusive to this offer!

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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post #19

Premium pricing. I would have been okay with $10/mo, this is pushing it. Let's see how long this lasts and whether they'll introduce a lower tier.

It's a good test of PMF, though. Lots of people on Twitter claiming this to be Google killer and how it's an indispensable part of their workflow.

Will be interesting to see how many people are willing to put their money where their mouth is.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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post #505

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I use my toothbrush every day but I wouldn't pay $20 per month for it. I use my keyboard everyday but I wouldn't pay $20 per month for it. In fact, I paid around $4 total for it, as paying more would bring significantly more diminishing returns. I use my phone every day and have used it for the past 5 years with no issue, it has brought me so much value and yet, if I draw the line, it didn't even reach $20 per month…

the cost of your phone plus the call/text/data plan is less than $20/month?

Yep, easy. I pay 8€/month for 3GB, which is plenty since I'm connected to Wifi most of the time.

And I paid 220 for my phone, which easily lasts 2 years.

That said: As a self-employed programmer, I think 20$/month for increased productivity is a steal!

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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post #401

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I think there's also an argument to be made that $20 per month is a bigger deal than some people realise. The issue isn't just _that one_ specific subscription you're paying for. The issue is how they all accumulate over time.. and eventually you find that your metaphorical bucket of money has turned into a leaky sieve. Not to mention all the services you forget to unsubscribe from even though they've ceased to provi…

Sure, but with some things, the increase in productivity pays off the price easily - you end up earning more, or working way less. $20/mo for a subscription of NYT, or Netflix is not one of those things. But ChatGPT in many cases can save whole days of work over each month, so - especially when you're a freelancer, it will pay itself off.

> you end up earning more, or working way less.

Unless you are salaried?

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Oh, I thought ChatGPT is based on Davinci, which is on their API page. Is ChatGPT not based on Davinci?

ChatGPT has been retrained with a method called Reinforcement Learning with Human Advice [0], effectively making it a very different model: [0] https://openai.com/blog/deep-reinforcement-learning-from-hum...

It’s not a “very different model”, it’s still heavily based on davinci (aka GPT 3.5)

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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GPT-3.5 will be available through Azure as an API https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/general-availability-... https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/products/cognitive-service...

Per that, it seems that they are defining GPT-3.5 as text-davinci-003? > Customers will also be able to access ChatGPT—a fine-tuned version of GPT-3.5 that has been trained and runs inference on Azure AI infrastructure—through Azure OpenAI Service soon.

Yes both ChatGPT and Davinci 003 are considered GPT 3.5 and were launched at the end if November. ChatGPT has more fine tuning but they’re essentially the same model.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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While I have your ear, please implement some way to do third party integrations safely. There’s a tool called GhostWrite which autocompletes emails for you, powered by ChatGPT. But I can’t use it, because that would mean letting some random company get access to all my emails. The same thing happened with code. There’s a ChatGPT integration for pycharm, but I can’t use it since it’ll be uploading the code to someone…

Tl;dr "Dear CTO, let me leech onto this unrelated topic to ask you to completely remove ways you gather data (even though it's the core way you create any of your products)." Some people man..

Bad take. He's actually asking for them to directly gather data as he trusts them more than the random middle-men who are currently providing the services he's interested in.

As someone working for a random middle-man, I hope OpenAI maintain the status quo and continue to focus on the core product.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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post #205

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You use it consistently during the workday and it's still not worth $20/mo?

This is one of those puzzling things to me. You own your life - why not spend your own money for the things that make you and your life better? Who cares? I worked at a job where I had a small, crappy monitor. I made decent cash. I just bought a large decent monitor and brought it into work. I ended up using it for many years. My life was significantly better. I've done that at several jobs since then, and NEVER regr…

I'm the opposite. I was using my laptop's build-in screen for months. My manager had to remind at every 1:1 for months to buy a monitor until I finally did.
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