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Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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They need to stop ruining the experience for those of us without an account. Everyone was using Twitter as basically an open bulletin board and then they go and make it visitor-hostile. I look at ads either way.

I have an account and every time I hit that signup/in wall I just close the page rather than sign into my account

Someone told me a while ago that if you hit "log in" a close button appears in the top left, and you can close the dialog without signing in.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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Musk is going to discover (and maybe admit?) that fixing Twitter is harder than he thought. Yeah I think he's going to intensely focus on Twitter for ~6 months, not change much, get bored, and then move onto something else.

Maybe. He hasn't given up on self-driving after it turned out to be much harder than he thought. He's still pouring money and time into it. And he hasn't given up on Starlink, even though it is not nearly as profitable as he hoped originally. He's just launching more satellites. And he hasn't given up on Starship even though it is years late. He's doubling down on its development. But I conceded that he might not see…

For every example you stated, there are more for things he has changed his mind on:

> https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-snake-charger-elon-musk/

> https://insideevs.com/news/326869/elon-musk-comments-on-fail...

The latter he said was due to low uptake (which is nonsense - you can find YouTube videos of how unfindable the place is).

> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1017149641991680002

More stuff he has given up on.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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> doubles down on money power, to a point where only money is power What has he said or done that indicates he is pushing for such a system? Are you suggesting the mere fact of his purchasing a company and being a billionaire means he is pushing for such a system or was there something else he said or did? I'm asking genuinely because I may very well have missed some important news item or other piece of information.…

Everyone who signs up for Twitter Blue (ie pays $3/month) should get an authentication checkmark — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 10, 2022 He has since deleted the Tweet, but it is an indicator of how out of touch he is when it comes to providing a free and equitable platform. https://euronewsweek.co.uk/tech/elon-musk-hints-at-paid-twit...

So... only vaguely "famous" people should be able to get verified? The current system is much worse than that, you can find PR firms online right now that charge $5-10k to get an article written about you in Forbes, come up with a fake Spotify profile so that you're a "musician," etc so that you can be verified.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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As much as people dislike Musk, he draws excitement and captivation not only to himself, but to whatever he touches. Now for the first time people actually care about the "future" of Twitter, or in a sense, have a vision for its future that isn't defined by its frequent moderation-related controversies. Is Musk's financial success and unparalleled cultural relevance a science that can be replicated? I mean, as much a…

He had help from the government, specifically Mike Griffin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Griffin#Career The rocket landing stuff largely borrow from DC-X and the spinoff work at NASA (+Lars Blackmore), all originally Strategic Defense Initiative stuff. He used all that money from Mike as collateral for loans to Tesla. He deserves some credit for impressive financial engineering and attracting talent under…

> Most people who work with Musk 1:1 know he's unpredictable but pretty mentally unimpressive.

Sources?

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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I understand that he has been publicly combative with all the executives; but is it a practical to fire all those key executives right away? Specially, do they not contain any specifically useful knowledge or experience that you should make an attempt at creating a collaborative transition? Is this how these kinds of acquisitions of public companies happen? Isn’t this effectively freezing all significant activities f…

I wouldn't have done it that quickly. Parag Agrawal just made $42 million as a severance package. His 2021 pay package was around $30 million. You'd save around $10 million by shifting him over into an advisor role, telling him to go home and lounge by the pool, and calling him any time you needed whatever insight he might be able to offer. I don't expect you'd call him very often, since I don't think he did an insan…

> since I don't think he did an insanely great job as CEO

TBF he did the one thing he needed to do - sell Twitter at an absurdly high valuation, great for all stockholders especially in this market. And, he kept Twitter chugging along without any failures. I can't expect more from a CEO.

EDIT: I see the rest of your comment is about why Elon wouldn't need him. With that, I can somewhat agree, though Parag has been at Twitter for a long time, and as CTO as well.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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What if he just loses a big pile of money while Twitter twists in the wind because there isn't much of a plan? That seems likely enough really.

That's certainly possible. But which of the following would you think is most likely to succeed? (a) a company trying to build electric cars at a time when there was zero consumer demand for them and the battery technology was nowhere near good enough (b) a company trying to launch things into space when the vast majority of nations in the world were unable to do so and even NASA seemed like it had lost its way (c) a…

You gotta look both at odds and also at returns...

You bet on (a) and (b) because nobody else has pulled it off so if you can do it, you can win big, and you aren't just one of many players in a crowded sea.

(c) is a rough bet since you're already huge but you still have a lot of competition and it's a crowded market and you haven't always made as much money per user as people would like...

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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It's very strange to me he intends to un-ban Trump when he gave up trying to work with him on that advisory council thing early in Trump's presidency.

Freedom of speech, even Trump deserves it

What does freedom of speech mean, in your mind? Is it ok to shout "fire" in a crowded theatre?

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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They need to re-free up the API. Early adopters and hackers really did some great work using the API until they walled-gardened it and rate limited it to make it unusable. They need to do this for goodwill at the very least, but I think it will spark the fire to make it popular with techies again. Based on the recently published discovery chats we will probably see: * High def video * Focus on music publication * The…

I think it's going to be more in the other direction. He really hates the bots, so he'll probably close up the API. Until bots gets solved, no developer should expect the API to open up.

The majority of scams are not bots written with the API. They’re stollen accounts of real people that are semi-automated, semi mech turked using a variety of techniques.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

#809

They need to re-free up the API. Early adopters and hackers really did some great work using the API until they walled-gardened it and rate limited it to make it unusable. They need to do this for goodwill at the very least, but I think it will spark the fire to make it popular with techies again. Based on the recently published discovery chats we will probably see: * High def video * Focus on music publication * The…

Twitter should remove Communities, Lists, Professional Profiles, Long Notes (their new take on blogging smh) and Spaces (you know that audio thing)?. These are failed experiments no?

Twitter should improve Bookmarks. I bookmark a lot of Tweets since it was introduced to the public and scrolling down for hundreds of tweets is not fun.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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I‘ve been an Elon fanboy since pre-Falcon 1 times and all the time I could simply follow his first principles to the core, be it the switch to electric cars, flight control using a quorum cluster of non-space-rated processors or the viability of methane and stainless steel for Starship against all previous failures. With Twitter, I‘ve lost that feeling and I don‘t know how it would be possible: Free speech, happy adv…

> satisfied governments globally

This is the easy part if he really wants to choose the free speech absolutist route. Close the European offices (which will probably happen anyways due to mass firings), bank accounts and move it all to America or other friendly jurisdiction if needed for tax purposes. They can sue all they want in Europe but American courts won't enforce a judgement that isn't compatible with American law. European governments can decide to block Twitter but then they'll have a bunch of unhappy voters. But this is unlikely.

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