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Same story from: CNN Business - Kanye West to acquire conservative social media platform Parler - https://lite.cnn.com/en/article/h_ad4adf7e27837537f8b07523ab... Associated Press - Kanye West to buy conservative social media platform Parler - https://apnews.com/article/kanye-west-parler-5b1cbdb1f311ae9... Reuters - Kanye West to buy social media app Parler - https://www.reuters.com/technology/parler-be-acquired-by-kan...

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Courting conservatives. Remember these guys: https://www.splcenter.org/file/15770

> Courting conservatives. Equating all conservatives with radial groups is not helpful and only further sows division.

Turning a blind eye to how prevalent radical ideology permeates the conservative base is also not helpful.

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/poll...

But you missed my point--by galvanizing the conservative base that is racist, homophobic, sexist, and anti-semetic, it leaves the rest of conservative party with an impossible choice--support a democratic candidate, or vote party line.

That is how Kanye is courting conservatives.

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(Retracting my comment. Kanye West has publicly talked about having bipolar disorder, see link below. Thank you to toomuchtodo for digging up that reference!)

https://www.thecut.com/2022/02/kanye-west-bipolar-disorder.h... > Kanye, who is now legally known by his nickname, Ye, was diagnosed with bipolar disorder after being hospitalized for a psychiatric emergency in 2016. In the years since, he’s spoken about experiencing manic episodes, often tweeting and performing through them. He has famously referred to bipolar disorder as his “superpower,” and spoke candidly about t…

He's been open about being bipolar since before his first album. Check out the song Gossip Flies at 6:48 https://youtu.be/a7SoMfT3PTw

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This is word salad. A bunch of psycho-babel that gives the impression of a deep understanding of the human psyche when in reality it shows at best the ability to memorize the criteria around a few invented categories and give a horoscope based off of them. I wouldn't make a point of saying this on other topics but it's crazy how much damage this stuff causes to people's lives

Vagueness fallacy as well as as hominem argument. If you disagree with what I've said, you must specifically speak to it. Handwaving and attacking me personally will never be persuasive.

Do you apply this same stict framework to your medical diagnoses you are handing out for people you've never met over the internet?

I don't need to catalogue the fallacies to point out why this is not a good idea.

This is also ironically vague and there is literally no ad hominem in there. Word salad is critique of the quality of the discourse, not of the person making it.

Also fallacy fallacy, just for good measure

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It's sad because to become successful Kanye had to ignore hundreds/thousands of important people telling him he wasnt good enough and he would never make it as a rapper. Then he became, arguably, the most popular rapper/hip hop artist of all time. Now image you've done what seems impossible despite countless people telling you it wont work out. You are in the top 1% of fame. Now someone tells you your other ideas are…

It’s odd how in my own personal experience, the only way that I know that Kanye is “the most successful rapper of all time” is people telling me that he is the most successful rapper of all time. I actually hardly ever hear his music, or see him performing anywhere, as compared to other rappers who, if I were to volunteer an opinion based on my own experiences I would think of as “most successful rappers of all time”…

He reminds me a lot of Donald Trump

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It's sad because to become successful Kanye had to ignore hundreds/thousands of important people telling him he wasnt good enough and he would never make it as a rapper. Then he became, arguably, the most popular rapper/hip hop artist of all time. Now image you've done what seems impossible despite countless people telling you it wont work out. You are in the top 1% of fame. Now someone tells you your other ideas are…

It’s odd how in my own personal experience, the only way that I know that Kanye is “the most successful rapper of all time” is people telling me that he is the most successful rapper of all time. I actually hardly ever hear his music, or see him performing anywhere, as compared to other rappers who, if I were to volunteer an opinion based on my own experiences I would think of as “most successful rappers of all time”…

He's literally one of the best selling music artists who single-handedly pioneered multiple substyles within hip-hop over a 20 year career. He's released some of the most critically acclaimed albums of all time.

Strictly as a rapper he might not be listed as "the best rapper ever", but as a musician he's easily up there.

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Early Kanye West brought a lot of attention to social issues through his music and was one of the first hip-hop artists to publicly advocate for acceptance of gay folks in hip-hop culture at a time when gay slurs were very common. His first album was downright wholesome as far as hip-hop and there's a reason he was so beloved. He's been on a long, slow, downward trajectory with his mental health since the death of hi…

> one of the first hip-hop artists to publicly advocate for acceptance of gay folks in hip-hop culture That's interesting - I've listened to his music since the beginning and would've assumed the opposite based on his reaction to the South Park Fish Sticks episode. Is there a specific song/album/statement he made that shows support for the LGBT community? As he's turned deeply religious (supports mega churches) + con…

"You can still love your man and be manly dog" referring to his cousin https://youtu.be/JwAjANmjajc

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As someone who doesn't listen to much rap / hip hop, and can only name his cover (adaptation?) of Stronger, I do know who Kanye is. I don't know anything about his music. Mostly I just know of him because he's a very public asshole. Much like his wife. I find it basically impossible to empathize with him. I just wouldn't ever be in that situation. "Rising against adversity" is not the story I'd be be using here so mu…

> I would wager greatly that it's not that he's grown cynical to people saying he can't do something, but that he's become delusional from people telling him a genius. I've been wary of defending Kanye online lately, but Kanye's influence isn't just "rap / hip hop". Kanye also broke into luxury/high-end fashion quite unexpectedly where he was given the same sort of push back. It started with him interning at Fendi (w…

I think you're significantly overstating his impact on the fashion world.

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I don't know much about Kanye, but are reports of people telling him he didn'h have talent to be a rapper genuine, or just something he tells people? Because it sounds like the sort of thing people make up for their own personal narrative. It reminds me of when people say things like "the doctor told me I only had a year to live" - which is something no doctor would actually say because its a massive legal liability,…

It was genuine. He worked hard to get good at making beats, to the point he got signed at Roc-a-Fella Records to make beats for big artists at the time (Jay-Z, Alicia Keys, etc). He was super known for that in the industry, but Kanye insisted on one specific term of the contract - they gotta let him release his own album. Which they hesitantly allowed, because they thought he was just gonna fail and go back to what t…

A brief dispute over contract terms is not the adversity his stans make it out to be.

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I think others may be missing the fact of why Kanye could be buying Parler - Kanye just had his bank account closed by JP Morgan (for what appears to be his beliefs) https://www.tmz.com/2022/10/13/kanye-west-bank-jp-morgan-end... - Kanye was kicked off instagram & twitter https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/kanye-west-ins... - It's still unclear exactly why both occurred. Supposedly it's antisemitism, but h…

> - It's still unclear exactly why both occurred. Supposedly it's antisemitism, but he also just wore a "white lives matter" shirt

Ye saying he's "going to go defcon 3 on the Jews" is absolutely antisemitic and absolutely why he got restricted on Twitter. [0] That's the tweet that was received moderation, and its subject matter is very clear. I don't see how one could be unclear of why that got removed or unclear that's it's antisemitic.

Wearing a shirt doesn't magical erase one's behavior. "White lives matter," "All lives matter", it does not matter; what a shirt says won't make his antisemitic comments not antisemitic. Kinda like staring a sentence "I'm not a racist but..." doesn't make whatever racist comment that follows not racist.

As an aside him wearing the shirt isn't in support of Jews or white lives, it's him being funny/ironic. Read your own source. When you have a " lives matter" it's about speaking up for an un/under-represented group. White lives matter is a joke, as they are the majority. To paraphrase your source, it's funny because it's a black man stating the obvious.

[0] https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/09/entertainment/kanye-west-twit...

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