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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by Vladimof »

radec wrote: post #799
Vladimof wrote: post #783

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thanks for the tips, will definitely try to replace the USB port and back when I do the battery. Is your phone still waterproof?

No not waterproof, but I didn't try very hard. I would sort of prefer the phone to be easier to open. I used t-7000 glue which seemed really good, the main spot I feel like is not waterproof is where the finger print reader attaches to the back panel, and the camera lense cover.

I might replace the fingerprint sensor if it's not too expensive because that's the part I'm having the most issues with...

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by Dylan16807 »

Saint_Genet wrote: post #407
nousermane wrote: post #349

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Talking about notch/hole-punch displays. As somebody who never ever uses front-facing camera, can I have a phone/display without such defects, please?

If you sum together the stuff people in this thread has suggested, you have the Homers Car of phones on your hands

...what stuff?

The suggestions I'm seeing are yes hole punch, no hole punch, a screen you can use with one hand, just enough battery-filled thickness to have no camera bump, good camera, microsd, fingerprint sensor, headphone jack.

And one person wants a keyboard but I don't think they're suggesting that for this phone.

Once you decide if you want a hole punch or not, I see no issue with implementing the rest of those features in the same phone in a reasonable way.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by WheatM »

johnebgd wrote: post #797
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> Big companies are drowning in market data. They know some people really, really want small phones. But it's a long-tail opportunity they're willfully ignoring I would argue that they don’t know what people want at all, since market data just reinforces previously held assumptions. For example if you surveyed people in 2006 what kind of phone they wanted, most consumers would probably ask for a better flip phone. It…

I’ve owned smart phones since the treo. I’ve owned blackberry phones, windows mobile, even a palm pre. I’ve had nearly every iPhone since launch. I’m on an iPhone 13 Pro Max. Nothing makes me yearn for a smaller screen. I held an iPhone 3G in my hand last week after finding it in a drawer and was amazed at how it felt too small to be really useful these days. My gal has a 13 pro max. My folks have larger phones. My s…

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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by robocat »

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I suspect there are two constraints working against mini mobiles: 1. The industry push for thin due to the consumer dislike of thick. 2. The invisible consumer expectation that smaller mobiles should be cheaper. A mini screen with a fat body (large battery, good camera) is what many functionally oriented people should want, but cost and form will limit consumer desire and make it an extremely niche product?!? Edit: I…

It's been tried. Although it could've been a better design, it didn't go over well. https://thenextweb.com/news/bad-news-for-anyone-who-wanted-t...

¡Awesome! Even if shit execution, fugly, one-trick gimmick, with terrible branding.

* “Other manufacturers have managed to make a success of selling high-capacity smartphones. BlackView (and, for that matter, Ulephone, Doogee, and AGM) does especially well. Although they come with ginormous cells, they’re primarily designed to be hardy, and can take more of a beating than Mickey Rourke in the boxing ring.”

* “French smartphone manufacturer Avenir Telecom attempted to crowdfund the P18K on Indiegogo, but ultimately failed in a way that was previously unthinkable for a project that’s attracted so much press coverage and public interest. In total, Avenir Telecom ‘sold’ sixteen (absolute) units.”

* “there are people who would benefit from a phone with a 18,000 mAh battery. I’m talking about military users, people working in the oil and gas industry, famers, and even truckers. Avenir did nothing to cater to this valuable niche.”

* “The P18K, on the other hand, lacked waterproofing and shockproofing, making it thoroughly unsuitable for outdoor users.”

* “Avenir Telecom wanted €600 for a phone with the internals of a €200 phone. Without anything extra – like ruggedization – that’s a hard sell. It just didn’t represent good value for customers.”

* “Measuring several inches thick”

I was exaggerating a little by saying 20000mAh: about 5000 to 10000 would probably be sweet.

Also camera lenses on the P18K were not flush with reverse side - ugggh. There should be a proper shutter button (positioning and half-press to hold focus). Lenses needs protection eg. manual sliding shutter which when opened puts phone into camera mode (I have cracked mobile phone camera lenses).

Plenty of people want a proper waterproof camera (low light, macro, Tele, optical image stabilisation) in their pocket, and why not combine that with hardy mobile phone?

I can imagine making the screen plus battery plus the USB port all as a single user-replaceable part? Those are the usual culprits that get broken or need replacing.

Edit: Slight edits above for clarity. Also see Blackview Pro 11000mAh https://thenextweb.com/news/this-bonkers-chinese-phone-holds...

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by davee5 »

Pasorrijer wrote: post #692
davee5 wrote: post #270

Hi Eric, I'm a hardware startup guy myself (our paths have crossed) with the distinction that my own "very specific set of skills" has been honed at smartphone megacompanies and smartphone startups. OSOM, Essential, HTC, Samsung, Apple. I've designed and built a lot of phones. I'm building one now. I think this is a noble effort, I personally prefer pocketable phones too, but I think there are nigh-insurmountable hur…

You helped design the HTC EVO 3D!! I loved that phone what a great design.

Thanks for the kind words! I love the "helped" preface because it's exactly right, design is a team sport and I strongly believe in giving credit where due. Ben Chen (https://www.benchendesign.com/) was the creative lead on EVO 3D. I lead the technical side of the design for that one but he set the vision and the aesthetic. Great dude to work with too.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by perryizgr8 »

I was the owner of a Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 mini. It was the smallest phone I ever used. Fast, nice UI, fully featured, decent camera. The only downside was the horrible battery life. But I loved it, it was just so small. I miss the trend of making all electronic smaller and smaller.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by perryizgr8 »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #4

The Galaxy S10e is my current phone, and I'm not sure what I will do when it stops receiving security updates. It's basically perfect. It still has an SD card slot. It still has a headphone jack. It has wireless charging. It's reasonably sized. And it had flagship-for-the-time specs (albeit slightly less than the mainline S10 or S10+). Samsung doesn't make anything comparable to this anymore. The only drawback is tha…

I've had a very similar experience with my Galaxy S10. I got the battery swapped a few months ago for a very reasonable ₹2000 ($~30) at a Samsung service centre. Now my battery life is back to what it used to be. I'm confident I'll keep using this for at least two more years.

There's absolutely no replacement for this phone right now. Flagship specs, amazing camera, decent battery, SD card, headphone jack, 1440p screen. There's nothing like it.

PS: the in screen fingerprint sensor was quite horrible initially, but updates over the years have made it quite similar to a regular sensor.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by prawn »

dr_ wrote: post #173

I wonder how much of the limited sales of the iPhone mini could be attributed to the branding? What if Apple were to drop the mini and make this the base iPhone, with the other models being Plus, Pro, Max? Margins may be poorer with Mini, so it likely won’t happen, but I feel mini sales could be much higher if they wanted them to be.

Keep a base and make the Mini another premium option. It's not always that a smaller device is weaker but that it required sophisticated engineering to get everything that compact.

I'd pick a name that suggests that it's a lifestyle thing rather than being spartan.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by DanHulton »

I actually ended up going out and buying an iPhone mini today because of this thread. An upgrade from the 12 Pro.

I love it. It's SO much lighter, and small enough that I can reach the entire screen one-handed, so no longer do I need to awkwardly try to find a place to put down whatever I'm carrying in my other hand just so I can text or interact comfortably.

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