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Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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If you can (i.e. you don't fear persecution), please let them know that this was the reason. Part of the reason these things have taken off is that their proponents are very vocal, while the opponents prefer to just mind their own business.

Only good advice if the poster is independently wealthy and doesn't need to work.

He can start his own business or work for a smaller company

Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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> Google suggested that Martin Luther King Jr. should have talked about “the intense urgency of now” rather than “the fierce urgency of now” in his “I Have a Dream” speech and edited President John F. Kennedy’s use in his inaugural address of the phrase “for all mankind” to say “for all humankind.” A transcribed interview of neo-Nazi and former Klan leader David Duke—in which he uses the N-word and talks about hunting Black people—gets no notes.

Kek. The absolute state of the FAANG World playing with AI and identity politics

Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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This link in the article is insanely, crazily, madly, insultingly sickening to anyone who's not a slave. As I read it I felt like it was some kind of parody of Orwell. Disgusting to tell someone what verbiage they use sincerely and in technical terms is now verboten because it's harmful. To whom? Crazy people?

https://developers.google.com/style/inclusive-documentation

Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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This has nothing to do with “white” and everything to do with regressive left. Here is Kamala Harris, an Indian-Black American, pushing “Latinx”: https://mobile.twitter.com/kamalaharris/status/1290733001320...

You can’t overlook the role that white progressives play in selectively amplifying minority voices. I can’t get on CNN to give the “Bangladeshi guy take” on rising crime by saying stuff most Bangladeshi people agree with. I have to provide a Bangladeshi perspective that is appealing to the white progressives that make the decisions at CNN. There’s a deep synergy here that exploits the fact that most Americans have li…

> And I’ll tell you that most desis are closer to Tulsi Gabbard than Harris. Including the Russia stuff—given India’s long-standing affinity with Russia.

No surprise there: Modi is a conservative populist who could make Trump blush, and is very popular (and polarizing) in India. I’m not sure how the translates to Indian Americans, Indian politics isn’t very portable.

Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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Oh come on now. Chinese have far bigger and far more strict word list bans. In US, you need to say “people who menstruate” and “land owning person”; in China you will just just disappear if you say a wrong thing against the regime.

It’s about a lot more than just forbidden words. The ‘social justice’ fanatics are a black hole for productivity.

maybe

but the argument “I wish I was in China and I didn’t have to be careful what I say in public!” is so laughable if you have actually been in China or interacted with mainland Chinese

Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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Why would you want to maintain a passive voice? That's terrible writing unless you are defendant in litigation.

It's extremely important in a lot of policy positions to be able to use things like "a decision was made".

An example of this is when collecting and summarizing anonymous feedback.

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I think you're looking for the word parent?

Single parenthood does seem to be what those of a certain ideological bent push yes.

Not sure what you're implying, but I just mean why can't parents just be called parents? There's no need for a gendered word.

Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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This link in the article is insanely, crazily, madly, insultingly sickening to anyone who's not a slave. As I read it I felt like it was some kind of parody of Orwell. Disgusting to tell someone what verbiage they use sincerely and in technical terms is now verboten because it's harmful. To whom? Crazy people? https://developers.google.com/style/inclusive-documentation

This guide is interesting in how it lists allegedly immoral language use, alongside with clear PR/legal/trademark directives which I don't give a fuck about, such as "don't use google as a verb". I'll google whatever I want, google PR, go suck an egg.

Also quite annoying how they simply tell us what to do, without justifying things. A lot of these would be quite hard to truly argue - i.e. "blind people... can't see things. why exactly is that metaphor inappropriate to talk about visibility?" So they just assume an authoritarian tone and just instruct us in how we should behave.

Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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Somewhere I wonder if people have read too much of Orwell's 1984 and Iain M. Banks Culture series and have decided that between Newspeak and Marain is an idea that whilst we may not better the world today, if we can obliterate language we can obliterate an idea. Sapir-Whorf hypothesis put to use as a tool to ensure that future generations of humans will avoid the problems that have plagued us for all time, because th…

>we can obliterate language we can obliterate an idea. This is effectively one of the tenets of postmodernist thought. That language shapes reality. There is truth in the idea that language can influence perception but that doesn't mean that negative ideas can be eliminated by merely controlling language...

I feel like half of it is partly related to a perceived lack of power. You can have practically no power to affect votes on a law, or free someone you believe has been unjustly jailed, or remove someone from office; but you can yell at someone on twitter because they used the wrong word.

People making themselves the victims over language isn’t even new. You say happy holidays and someone goes on a rant about Christianity being under attack.

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