I found that Google sometimes returns very few results even though search word is common one. I suspected that so they can reduce their server resource. I'd like to pay better search result.
Google Search Is Dying
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#802Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This is the most annoying behavior because I really mean what I write. Tons of people don't, though. They type whatever unprocessed half-second thought they have into Google and expect Google to lead them to the water, even if they're tugging and trying to go in the completely wrong direction. Google has optimized for working 'most of the time' for 'the most people', and that means striving for fixing the complete…
A single mediocre experience optimized to work ‘most of the time’ for ‘most people’ is quite contrary to the narrative that has made Google such tremendous amounts of money (“let us surveil you so that you can have a more personalized experience”) though, isn’t it? Given all of the data collected about Google users, ought not one of the applications of that data be some way to give users specifically what they are se…
Given all of the data collected about Google users, ought not one of the applications of that data be some way to give users specifically what they are searching for...
You're missing what "personalization" has come to really mean. It means knowing enough about the user to give them an experience you can profit from and which they will accept. If there isn't something you can expect profit from, there's no reason to give them anything.
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#803An important thing to realize, too, is that this is a problem that keeps getting worse. The article talks about product reviews and recipes, but it's been spreading a lot further than that. Recently I was trying to look up a technical error, and found a lot of web pages that seemed to be auto-generated with "How to solve [error_scraped_from_the_web]", complete with a list of generic things unrelated to the error (IE,…
Google used to be better at filtering out garbage content like this. They have resources for detecting low quality content (e.g. all pages on this domain follow the same content-free pattern).
I suspect that doing that wouldn't drive ad revenue up, so they don't bother.
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#804I identify with this so much. I use a range of search engines to fulfill specific needs. Examples below. * Google - shopping, consumer oriented, up-to-date local content on restaurants and venues * Google reddit - product reviews, product issues, programming, local "issues" * Kagi - for informational, programming help, research, politics, anything controversial * Bing - for video Google is absolutely terrible for any…
>Kagi I looked into this, but you have to sign up for an invite, and they first demand you give them a bunch of information. I bailed at the second question. "what do you want in a search engine". How about not making me answer questions to use it?
I give them the benefit of the doubt that they are trying to create a good product and are truly interested in understanding user needs. afaik they are planning on making the search engine a paid product. Which I'm okay with. I seriously plan on paying for it if it's a good price. For some searches, I genuinely feel like I have a leg up among my peers because I'm able to find higher quality relevant information much faster using kagi.
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#805Love it, same old paul graham propaganda, of course Reddit hasn’t peaked even if the graph resembles the one right next to it :) I think pg peaked some 5 years ago.
But the main topic, has google search peaked. Yes it has. The amounts of ads vs great relevant search results peaked some time ago.
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#806Some really good thoughts here. I'll summarize the ones that hit me: - "Why are people searching Reddit specifically? The short answer is that Google search results are clearly dying. The long answer is that most of the web has become too inauthentic to trust." This is it for me exactly. I search for the following kinds of things on Reddit exactly because results on other sites aren't trustworthy: Reviews are secretl…
> This is the most annoying behavior because I really mean what I write. Tons of people don't, though. They type whatever unprocessed half-second thought they have into Google and expect Google to lead them to the water, even if they're tugging and trying to go in the completely wrong direction. Google has optimized for working 'most of the time' for 'the most people', and that means striving for fixing the complete…
It's funny to observe my stepson learning his way through Google. It's happening mostly through the assistants on TVs and locked cellphones. But he's learning to do exactly what you said: half-second thoughts and brute forcing many queries for the same subject. He's 7.
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#807Some really good thoughts here. I'll summarize the ones that hit me: - "Why are people searching Reddit specifically? The short answer is that Google search results are clearly dying. The long answer is that most of the web has become too inauthentic to trust." This is it for me exactly. I search for the following kinds of things on Reddit exactly because results on other sites aren't trustworthy: Reviews are secretl…
"It is obvious that serving ads creates misaligned incentives for search engines..."
I don’t think this is the problem. The problem is the need for public companies to grow exponentially. If you take away the need to constantly grow exponentially, then ads on search can be both balanced well and make an insane amount of money.
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#808In principle, I can't contradict anything in this article with my own experience.
The coup de grâce for me came with a cell carrier switch, after which Google began constantly nagging me to complete captchas when I searched. That annoyance started amplifying all of the other piques I'd had with Google (including progressively less-relevant results as time went on).
I found myself constantly using quotes and minuses to get the results I wanted from Google, and appending keywords like "wiki" to prefer specific sources.
The day that the realization hit me- that I was really just using Google as an unnecessary entry point for other search engines, all of which had their own perfectly good search interfaces- was the day Google ceased to be my default across all of my platforms.
My default "generic" search engine is now Qwant, and if I specifically want Wikipedia or Amazon or eBay or Reddit or anything else, why, it's just a simple drop down away. Level of abstraction removed, and as a bonus, the blasted captchas are gone.
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#809Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a reason why it seems shocking that Google has been able to balance the ads well enough that people still use it. They haven't! Google has orchestrated a monopoly over search engine distribution that allows them to get away with search results that are dominated by ads and spam, without losing most consumers. Let's be blunt here - almost no consumer consciously chooses to use Google search anymore. Google has…
Just tried https://andisearch.com/ and I like it. Felt like a fresh look on results instead of the same old SEO ones. For example, searched for a few Java queries and found very informative website/results that weren't dominated by Bealdung. Searched for "soccer scores", "chelsea FC", "prince andrew", "WP export" and found things that would never have been on Google's first page, but were excellent returns. Nice work…
Thank you. While I don't want to distract from the topic here, I do really appreciate your feedback and you trying it out, and would love to talk more if you'd like to reach out! Speaking generally, the world needs more people working on search, and I think there is a lot of room for completely new approaches.
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#810Isn't Reddit slated for an IPO?