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Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by habeebtc »

What I was interested to see discussed here which I have not seen is the relative merits of this and other similar products (yes, there are several!).

GPD Win Aya Neo Smach-z

The first two have actually shipped units. I own the first gen Win (underpowered, quality issues but an amazing first effort), and am awaiting my Neo.

Neo seems more powerful but bulkier and more expensive. I have great faith in Valve to produce hardware to last. The latest Gen GPD'S are looking great!

Any thoughts?

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by fomine3 »

Happy to see KDE Plasma is default. I think KDE should be more adopted than now (rather than GNOME). But a bit weird decision since GNOME3 is more touch friendly than KDE Plasma.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by kllrnohj »

CivBase wrote: post #174
superkuh wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love Valve but it seems like they create these hardware projects to occasionally remind platform owners like microsoft/playstation/nintendo that they can't completely abuse their users and software devs (Win10 store lock-in, etc) and retain all of them. Valve just wants to protect steam and credible hardware platform competition is how they do it. I don't think they have any real plans to produce and support hardwa…

> I don't think they have any real plans to produce and support hardware long term. With Valve's track record, I absolutely believe they have limited plans for production in the long term. But their long-term hardware support is impeccable. I have several discontinued pieces of hardware from Valve (the Steam Link and Steam Controller), both of which are still used and work as well as they day I bought them - better e…

The Steam Link, released in 2015 and discontinued in 2018, is still getting firmware updates to this day.

Valve's long-term support of the hardware they do release really is impeccable.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by seba_dos1 »

BuckRogers wrote: post #698

How long until Epic Games sues Valve because they're not a first-class store on Steam Deck? Companies like Apple, Valve, and Microsoft build out ecosystems and take massive risks doing so, only to have someone who made millions if not billions of dollars off of these systems to come knocking. Epic made millions if not billions off these platforms. Nintendo is locked to their store. So is Xbox and PS. Not sure why any…

The Deck is not closed though.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by ip26 »

ProfessorLayton wrote: post #164

Battery: 40Whr battery. 2 - 8 hours of gameplay Having the battery as low as 2hrs is brutal. I know the early Switch consoles weren't much better running AAA titles like BoTW but they've revised the chipset a few times since, and newer models floor at ~4.5hrs (3hrs for the lite). I'm all for more competition, but I'm not clear on who the intended audience is for this device.

A popular portable platform to target provides an incentive for PC game developers to improve their power efficiency. I wouldn't be surprised if PC games mostly didn't even measure power consumption.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by thefunnyman »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #56

Gotta admit, I never saw that coming. I thought SteamOS was dead after the failure of Steam Machines and Valve was only continuing with their Linux efforts because it's still a useful hedge against Microsoft locking everyone in the App Store. I totally did not expect them to copy the Switch use-case with it. I'm anxious to see how this turns out. Valve's history with hardware is not so great, so it could go nowhere l…

Steam link is not the best example as they’ve made it available on standard hardware like raspberry pi and it’s baked into the OS of many smart TVs now. They just pivoted from selling their own hardware for it. They also continue to update the controller features, including adding in Bluetooth support long after release.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by BuckRogers »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #805
BuckRogers wrote: post #698

How long until Epic Games sues Valve because they're not a first-class store on Steam Deck? Companies like Apple, Valve, and Microsoft build out ecosystems and take massive risks doing so, only to have someone who made millions if not billions of dollars off of these systems to come knocking. Epic made millions if not billions off these platforms. Nintendo is locked to their store. So is Xbox and PS. Not sure why any…

The Deck is not closed though.

I realize this, that's why I said first class store. It’s all about money, they’d stop fighting for freedom if they weren’t losing a cut. And now with all these lawsuits, no one‘s ever going to take the multi-million dollar investment to build a quality platform ever again. Why would you, when you can just leech direct from everyone else without them even taking a percentage of your sales?

May as well shut it all down. Everyone else gets to completely freeload off of your multi-year, if not multi-decade, multi-million dollar investment.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by adrr »

css wrote: post #240
minimaxir wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Valve engineers explicitly frame the Steam Deck as a PC with an integrated controller rather than a game console: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLtiRGTZvGM

Yeah, this is an awesome change of pace for an industry that notoriously locks down its hardware.

PS3 allowed other OSes like Linux or BSD. It was eventually scrapped due to no market demand for it.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by angvp »

Fnoord wrote: post #749
l0b0 wrote: post #606

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Arch Linux is amazing. The biggest surprise for me was that it's more stable than so-called stable distros, probably because the various packages don't end up drifting several months from each other when keeping up to date. Hopefully this eventually results in more user friendly Arch Linux installers. The learning curve is an absolute wall when installing, even after several years on Linux, but after that it's pretty…

Arch Linux sucks. Its the default OS on the Pinephone which I use as a backup smartphone (main smartphone is Android). I'm used to running Debian, which is rock stable. Arch Linux? I get dependency issues when I'm running the software update installer. Not once or twice, all bloody time. I mean, WTF? How would anyone want such in production??? NixOS is more sane because it has roll backs, and declarative configuratio…

What you are describing happens to me on deb systems, a lot, specially if they are not recent, (Debian 8)
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