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70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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His statements are not backed by any evidence, so I don't know what to make of them. Nonetheless an interesting opinion by someone that has done some great things that certainly tickeled my curiosity, +1

Mr Greenwald is an activist.

everyone in some level is an activist.

I don't agree with everything that he does or says. However I'm sure he would be the last one to take the side of Parler or any other similar project.

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The data is public now—if you're so certain, go find me a single post on Parler calling for mass executions.

Since a "single post" has been provided by someone now, it would be nice to see you give them the decency and acknowledge it. There are so many comments here, and they all read in the same way, "well, what about..." and "show me proof" — only for someone to actually go and spend the time to respond, and then be ignored quietly. Discussions here (political ones) feel so childish, I wish we'd be better as a community o…

I have. I don't typically sit on HN and refresh my own comments to see people responding in real time.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Have to been on Reddit, specifically /r/politics? There are calls to violence all the time . Nobody bats an eye because it's calls to violence against the "bad guys."

I assume you've got some citations for that, right? I have been to r/politics and people get banned pretty quickly for calling for violence. I just went through the top 20 threads, and there isn't a single call for violence to be found.

Parler is banning those posts as well: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/09/politics/parler-lin-wood-... The point is that there are bad actors and bad voices across these platforms, including those that are "okay" like Reddit, Facebook, and Twitter.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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I didn't know Parler before. I'm not American, and I'm definitely not a right-wing supporter. But that's not the same as Youtube/Facebook/Spotify tries to do? Good for ads and supporting their political agenda? References: - https://medium.com/swlh/youtube-algorithm-rigged-breadtube-e... - https://theindustryobserver.thebrag.com/spotify-joe-rogan/ EDIT: Wow: So many down-votes in less than a minute, without any comme…

His statements are not backed by any evidence, so I don't know what to make of them. Nonetheless an interesting opinion by someone that has done some great things that certainly tickeled my curiosity, +1

I'm not really following the issue, but there is any evidence of the people involved in the Capitol invasion being active users on Parler?

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/r/conservative moderates their platform to accept all types of conservatives, including the authoritarian "let's spend all our money on the military and censor everything we don't like" types. They also took in an massive influx of new users after the_donald was banned which permanently changed its discourse. And as the biggest right-leaning political subreddit, r/conservative also took in an influx of people postin…

Those "more libertarian subreddits" seem to have similar behaviors...

Examples? "Flaired users only" doesn't exist in any of the other subreddits I frequent, and all subreddits (even non-political ones) reserve the right to remove off-topic or uncivil comments.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Talk about hyperbole. In no way did even 1% of the population on Parler want mass executions for people like you.

here's nearly 1% of (4mm estimated active) upvoting something similar though: /r/ParlerWatch/comments/ktwmje/this_is_the_type_of_free_speech_parler_accepts/

That statement—while absolutely and undeniably abhorrent—is not even remotely calling for mass executions, or even mass violence, against anybody.

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I think the difference is that r/politics doesnt actually ban you for posting something conservative, its just the users deciding they dont like it. I dont use it either way due to their horrible link rules, but there is definitely a difference in my opinion.

You're silenced by moderators or you're silenced by users. I don't see much difference in the end.

Comments "silenced" by users can generally still be found by sorting by "controversial".

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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In the initial post about the Capitol being shut down,t here were people saying that everyone who broke into the capitol building needed to be tried for treason and executed, or saying that the police should have opened fire and killed anyone who broke in. The mods removed the comments, but HN isn't some paragon of virtue that isn't susceptible to the same calls for violence as any other site.

Mods removing those comments sort of proves that HN isn't a safe haven for the calls for violence.

Those comments and posts are removed from Parler as well: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/09/politics/parler-lin-wood-...

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This really is the rule, not the exception. Every time I've deigned to wade into conservative "free-speech" zones I've been booted out for ideological nonconformity. Tolerance is a peace treaty: https://extranewsfeed.com/tolerance-is-not-a-moral-precept-1...

Just look at reddit / r / conservative. You have to be proven to be conservative before you can post, yet, they preach about first amendment, freedom of speech and your rights all the time.

It is not possible for that page to be conservative, regardless of what the sub is called. The title is irrelevant, it is the nature of the thing that makes it such.

Going to /r/conservative is like a red cross visit of a communist labor camp and all the inmates have brand new clothes with creases in them. A facade of what the regime thinks a conservative subreddit should look like. Do you actually think that people can espouse "conservative", let alone even non-regime conformant beliefs anywhere on Reddit? The thousands of reddit accounts piled up in the digital mass graves would suggest not.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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I think the difference is that r/politics doesnt actually ban you for posting something conservative, its just the users deciding they dont like it. I dont use it either way due to their horrible link rules, but there is definitely a difference in my opinion.

You're silenced by moderators or you're silenced by users. I don't see much difference in the end.

Not being listened to is very different from being silenced.
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