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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by deadmutex »

shaunparker wrote: post #106
ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

No Night Mode for the camera. It's disappointing that they're not enabling it, but I guess it's not surprising.

I am curious to know why you say it is not surprising. FWIW, The Pixel 3A (which went on sale last year for ~$400, included night mode).

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by bscphil »

PopeDotNinja wrote: post #756
coldpie wrote: post #161

Yes. I'm an Android user who is absolutely sick of phablets. I have a Pixel 3A (5.6") and it is way, way too big. I've been quite excited about this iPhone SE announcement. However, the lack of a headphone jack is a huge negative, and 4.7" is the absolute largest I think is reasonable. A little smaller would've been ideal. I'm undecided on whether to switch to the SE, but I genuinely hope it sells like crazy. Then ma…

I miss my old Nexus 4. That was a great size.

I've said it here before many times - the Nexus 4 was nearly the perfect phone in every way and was the best Android phone ever made. Literally all I want in a phone is the Nexus 4 with software updated forever. Hell, you don't even need to upgrade the hardware, the 720p screen is fine. Just make the battery replaceable and you'd never need a new phone if manufacturers would commit to long term support.

That said, imagine the world was sane and how it could be upgraded: they could reduce the size of the bezel, give it a more efficient processor and better battery life. It wouldn't take much, but it seems like the only reason we can't have good things today is that it isn't profitable enough.

Somebody should do an open-hardware clone of the N4 form factor.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by Polylactic_acid »

wastedhours wrote: post #315
hajile wrote: post #247

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My current phone has no headphone jack and it's been an absolute pain the whole time. Adapters are hit-or-miss and generally suck. Even high-end devices (mine was over $800) often have hissing due to the analog signal running fractions of a millimeter from a bunch of digital signals. Adding insult to injury, music objectively sucks with bluetooth. A good DAC takes space and power. Multiple drivers take space and powe…

On the flip side, my phone does have a headphone jack and it's been a perennial weak spot. Debris gets in there far too easily to the extent that it doesn't even allow me to use a standard headphone cable. I'm not an audiophile, so wireless headphones and streamed music is more than good enough for me - but as someone who has a headphone jack and would be more than willing to use it, it's not exactly been a bed of ro…

This was solved on otterbox cases with a little flap that clips in and covers the jack.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by filleduchaos »

ogre_codes wrote: post #233
Nursie wrote: post #183

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There have usually been smaller androids available. But people didn't buy them in enough numbers to make them a thriving sector AFAICT. Samsung used to do the Galaxy Mini line, Sony always had smaller xperia's... But most folks seem to want a bigger, shinier screen. That's not to say you're wrong in your desires, it's just they might not be widely shared. I also hope this does well. It's a nice looking unit.

Most of the time those smaller form factor Android phone have had lackluster CPU, mediocre battery life, and crappy cameras. The SE is very close to a flagship product in terms of performance.

The Xperia Compacts were almost exactly their flagship counterparts but with smaller bodies/displays (and sometimes less ROM).

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by ip26 »

oops wrote: post #541
andrepd wrote: post #214

I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…

The Palm Phone[1] looks pretty cool and certainly ticks the compact box. It's almost enough to make me consider Android but I'll probably just keep using old SE until it dies. 1: https://palm.com/products/palm-unlocked

It would probably be my ideal phone if the battery life was not reportedly atrocious.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by runjake »

andrepd wrote: post #214

I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…

> It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, but the only standard.

Is it? The market shifts to where the money is.

There apparently isn't enough money to make it worth the OEMs' time. If there were, they'd capitalize on it.

While I abhor huge phones, I see more Plus model iPhones than I do the "smaller" models, in the wild.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by randyrand »

rgovostes wrote: post #749
randyrand wrote: post #704

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hmm Ive done the math before and I thought if a 5.4" device exisited it would be about halfway between an SE and a 6. https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2019/06/27/apple-ne...

Feel free to check my work here: https://gist.github.com/rgov/63f2f6267fd84e78b0e393451a081ad... I switched to using the iPhone 11 Pro bezel size because both displays are expected to use OLED technology. That would give: iPhone 12 (5.4") is 2.64x5.31" Body size is 24.68% larger than iPhone SE Screen size is 62.27% larger than iPhone SE

Look reasonable. sad. Hopefully the bezels are smaller.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by ianai »

threepio wrote: post #33

"Popular design"? On the contrary. As an iPhone SE owner, this is exactly the form factor that fans of the iPhone 4/5 series (like me) rejected as being too large.

I’d suggest people really pissed to buy one just to return it. They’ll get the point no other way.
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