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Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by spectistcles »

thomastjeffery wrote: post #741
spectistcles wrote: post #601

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I'm with you on this. The bloatware in modern operating systems, even once you take away the PC-vendor garbage, is appalling. I feel like they could keep things the way they are, and offer an AOSP-like vanilla version for people who generally know what they're doing (Google does a pretty good job with limiting it). I'd pay hundreds of dollars more for this software option (have previously considered hiring someone to…

What you want is Linux. OS X is a bloated version of BSD. Why run that when you can use Linux for free? Install the software you use and nothing else. Your package manager will keep all of your software up to date for you. You won't be running an absurd antivirus program an the time...

I need to use the Adobe Creative Suite (or a mainstream alternative like Sketch). Literally the only reason I can't switch to linux.

Before anyone even starts — GIMP is not viable in enterprise workflows.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by abc_lisper »

thomastjeffery wrote: post #729
juandazapata wrote: post #623

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"Linux is free, only if you don't value your own time" - Some guy that I don't remember

"free" isn't about cost. "Free" is about liberty. When you use a proprietary OS, you rely entirely on its creators to create a system that does what you want. When something in Windows or OS X is not what you want (or is broken), you can't do anything about it. When something in a free OS is not what you want, you always have the option to use something else.

Free is about transparency. Not snooping on my files, do machine learning mumbo jumbo on my habits, surreptitiously nudge in the direction they want is huge part of it.

Free is a promise, a promise that I do what I say. If the software doesn't, it is for all the world to see my deficiencies.

Free is also about not being an asshole. It is about accepting the fact that, just because the users use my software, I don't get to control their lives.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by kerbalspacepro »

Aaargh20318 wrote: post #468
kerbalspacepro wrote: post #365

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... on Windows you drag a window to the right and make it 1/2 or 1/3 or 1/4 the screen. On a Mac dragging the window... drags the window.

I never understood the whole obsession with running applications fullscreen. The whole point of a multitasking OS is to run multiple apps at the same time. If you need to run your apps fullscreen you probably need a bigger monitor.

My MBA always has an app in full screen mode. My TB display has windows on windows. It is the apps' fault, not mine.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by CamperBob2 »

komali2 wrote: post #596
Aaargh20318 wrote: post #468

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I never understood the whole obsession with running applications fullscreen. The whole point of a multitasking OS is to run multiple apps at the same time. If you need to run your apps fullscreen you probably need a bigger monitor.

For the other perspective - it actually boggles my mind when I see coworkers with one desktop open with 3-4 windows kinda mushed all around, different sizes, etc. Like, you paid a lot of money for that good display , why are you not using it?! How can you stand having to scroll all over a window to see something, when you could just fullscreen it? Is it that they need to context switch quickly? Why not just use multi…

How can you stand having to scroll all over a window to see something, when you could just fullscreen it?

Uh... because with three 30" monitors, it would be like sitting in the front row at an iMAX theater?

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by CamperBob2 »

valuearb wrote: post #589
runamok wrote: post #556

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Most people don't have 5-8k to drop. The main problem with your specs is thinner/lighter is diametrically opposed to longer battery life and more RAM which consumes more energy. In 2015 the macbook pro had a 99.5 watt-hour battery (100 watts is the limit to take on airplanes). Now it has 76 watt hours. So you could get approximately 30% more battery life had they not prioritized thin and light. Source: https://www.cn…

Everyone benefits from thinner and lighter. We only benefit from more battery life if you reach the end of your capacity. For phones, it's an easy product decision, thinner/lighter is always better. You give the most benefit to the most users, and those who really need more battery life can get a battery case and pay the weight/thickness costs alone. For a Macbook, it's a closer decision, but I think in this case the…

Everyone benefits from thinner and lighter.

Hmm, where'd the downvote button go?

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by saijanai »

Apple should go beyond trying to woo back their "power users" and design something to impress non-Mac users so that they’ll want to buy the new Mac Pro just so they can run Windows or Linux.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by scholia »

jolux wrote: post #782
scholia wrote: post #780

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You're insane if you think it's an advertisement. If you can't see that, I don't think I can help you do so.

I guess you think it's clever to imitate me or something? Anyways you clearly have nothing more to contribute. Microsoft wanted to give away Windows 10 "for free" but realized they'd be screwed money wise, so they loaded it up with advertising and telemetric crap to try and compensate. It's really that simple. I'm sorry I bothered engaging in the first place, and I certainly won't continue if you just imitate me with…

LOL. I certainly won't continue if you just imitate me with more inane bullshit in your reply.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by Neeek »

ovao wrote: post #501
Godel_unicode wrote: post #385

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> SSH / SFTP are fundamental tools They are provided out of the box (and newer versions than OSX ships with) by WSL. As is vim, emacs, apt, etc.

They are provided in WSL, but the Windows Subsystem for Linux is a separate install atop Windows, and the installation process is currently very complex and lengthy.

Am i going mad? Windows has a command line ftp tool, I used it this morning. Is it just a Windows 10 thing? because it was also on my netbook running 8.1 out of the box.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by FireBeyond »

georgebarnett wrote: post #797
FireBeyond wrote: post #486

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Much as I am keen to see the Mac Pro replacement, It's not unnecessarily negative to point out the absurdity of the fact that in December, 2017, Apple will be selling, at a premium price point, no less, an _Ivy Bridge_ processor. And charging _twelve hundred_ dollars for 48GB of memory.

How do you know it's an Ivy Bridge? They don't like the version of CPU in the upgrade and Haswell would fit in the tdp.

The current one is Ivy Bridge. I don't see a minor speed bump prior to a major revision including updating their custom motherboard design from LGA 1155 to LGA 1150. Especially considering their neglect thus far.
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