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Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by Etheryte »

qz_ wrote: post #690
simonsarris wrote: post #229

Interestingly they removed the pricing from their landing page, this morning the Macbook pro prices (for the old gen) were pretty prominent at the top of the page, above the fold and above any images of the computer. The 13 inch now starts at $1,499 (but no touch bar at all unless you spend at least $1,799), up from $1,299. The 15 inch now starts at $2,399, up from $1,999. If you want to compare the copy, you can see…

Who the hell are they marketing this to?

The same question struck me. Because it's obviously not meant for the previous pro audience.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by tarikjn »

If I had to take some wild predictions/hopes, I'd say:

  - The Thunderbolt Display live on with the iMac, the new iMac having
    a new Thunderbolt target mode, allowing USB-C Macbooks to use all
    its peripherals/ports, including the GPU.
  - This new iMac will also be released with a touchbar keyboard
    accessory
  - e-ink keys keyboard will either be released with the new iMac or at
    a later stage, also triggering an update on Macbooks, which, as a
    side effect, will allow Apple to reduce its number of SKUs
  - no new Mac Mini, the iPhone has now enough power to take over that
    role with a new accessory or target mode and code updates on OS X
    allowing everyone with an iPhone to try or use OS X
  - Mac Pro will be updated
In short:

  (1) the thunderbolt display will merge with the iMac
  (2) the Mac Mini will merge with the iPhone

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by 123jay7 »

vermooten wrote: post #340
justanton wrote: post #292

Apple is being run more and more by marketers, rather than by techies. As a developer, I don't want to see "emojis" on my keyboard, but I do want to be able to plug in any device I need in that exact moment, without looking for a right dongle. Apple needs to stop sacrificing usability for "looks".

> Apple is being run more and more by marketers, rather than by techies. Yes. Today's the day that Apple became irrelevant.

Hahaha. Said after the launch of every single Apple product post Apple II.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by elnygren »

Why is everyone so disappointed? This is still by far the best laptop out there - let's go through the painpoints:

- no 32gb RAM. Name one laptop (a laptop, not a battleship) that has 32gb. Dell and Lenovo have a couple monstrosities with trackpads from the 90s with that amount of RAM.

- no ESC key. C'mon, obviously the toolbar has it when running macvim or iTerm (or some other terminal) with vim.

- no Intel something, no Nvidia this and that. So? With regards to GPU and CPU this is probably the best laptop in the market that is this thin and light.

- 10h battery life. MBP already has the biggest battery that is allowed in airplanes. Nobody can do better with same amount of computing power.

- USB-C. In a way this is valid, however, the world is better off with less connectors (it's Apple, everyone's gonna follow suit). For MagSafe, look at something like ZapTip.

To people saying they are abandoning Apple after a decade of use: why?

- still the best keyboard and trackpad BY FAR in the market

- still the best build quality, design and dimensions in the market

- excellent display

- excellent software

- an actual laptop that you want to carry around instead of a Dell/Lenovo plastic monster battleship

I think other people already did the comparison against Microsoft. Surface Books are much more expensive ($/performance) with only the touch screen going for them.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by sfblah »

plingamp wrote: post #766
swang wrote: post #341

I have the early 2013 MacBook Pro. It is still pretty fast. Nothing I saw today makes me happy to upgrade as a developer. Sure it's lighter and thinner and HUUGE trackpad that's a nice to have when I'm traveling. But the TouchBar requires me to look down at my keyboard which slows me down. And they can't even leave the keyboard itself alone with the terrible butterfly implementation coming over from the 12" MacBook.…

I have a old Chromebook that I am using as my primary dev machine (at home). Was hoping to upgrade it to a MBP, but now i'm not sure. I know they are two different classes of machines, but what really struck me in that I can literally buy 10 Chromebooks for 1 MBP.

Which Chromebook do you use for dev, and how do you set it up for your dev env (a quick name of a site to read would be awesome)

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by ajeet_dhaliwal »

ucha wrote: post #237

Interesting fact: the 13" macbook without the touch bar has a 10% larger battery; however they don't describe it as having a 10% better battery life: they're both rated at 10 hours.

I noticed this in technical specs on their site. Odd.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by bambax »

rayiner wrote: post #259
npgatech wrote: post #165

This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…

> Microsoft really hit it out of the park yesterday. Did we watch the same event? Microsoft introduced a $3,000 desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. It introduced a minor update to the Surface Book that starts at $2,300 with dual-core CPU, only 8GB of RAM, and last-gen graphics hardware. For the same price as the new Surface Book i7, I can get an MBP 15" with bigger screen, twice the RAM, and a qua…

> nobody uses desktops anymore

?? What profession doesn't use -- doesn't absolutely rely on desktop PCs??

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by zyngaro »

I currently have a mid 2012 Macbook air and I love it. I was thinking about buying a new Mac but now I gonna buy a Thinkpad. Apple strategy has become clear now. They are targeting the - wealthy that do not care much about technology and just want a fancy product - part of the market.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by zyngaro »

I currently have a mid 2012 Macbook air and I love it. I was thinking about buying a new Mac but now I gonna buy a Thinkpad. Apple strategy has become clear now. They are targeting the - wealthy that do not care much about technology and just want a fancy product - part of the market.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by PhantomGremlin »

freshyill wrote: post #509
swang wrote: post #341

I have the early 2013 MacBook Pro. It is still pretty fast. Nothing I saw today makes me happy to upgrade as a developer. Sure it's lighter and thinner and HUUGE trackpad that's a nice to have when I'm traveling. But the TouchBar requires me to look down at my keyboard which slows me down. And they can't even leave the keyboard itself alone with the terrible butterfly implementation coming over from the 12" MacBook.…

I have no idea with the idea of MagSafe, but on my Retina MacBook Pro (also early 2013), it's become extremely finicky. About 20% of the time, it just doesn't charge. I just have to connect and disconnect it a few times and eventually it works.

FWIW, in addition to cleaning the contacts which others have mentioned, I had the same problem and it improved when I reset my SMC: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295

But maybe that's just the placebo effect.

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