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Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by tdicola »

Looking at the deprecated features that won't make it to Windows 10 I see:

> Solitaire, Minesweeper, and Hearts Games that come pre-installed on Windows 7 will be removed as part of installing the Windows 10 upgrade. Microsoft has released our version of Solitaire and Minesweeper called the “Microsoft Solitaire Collection” and “Microsoft Minesweeper.”

Does anyone else find it kind of sad that they killed off the old solitaire and minesweeper games? Part of what made Windows great was its incredible focus on backwards compatibility and it was always fun to load up solitaire, minesweeper, etc. in all their classic win 32 glory just like they ran in Windows 95.

The new games are weird microtransaction/subscription-based things that I'm sure marketing folks are extremely proud of but seem to have killed a bit of the soul of Windows. If nothing else the old games should have stayed in to show people that yes it's still your old Windows and apps written years ago will mostly just work.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by batou »

0xffffabcd wrote: post #79
batou wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's still there and running though. That's like you know there's a hissing cockroach living under the sink but you just close the door and stick your fingers in your ears.

The other option is to remove kb3035583

Still appears on mine if you remove that and block it. Lots of people have reported that.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by bad_user »

melling wrote: post #2

Let's hope Windows 10 is a big hit with PC users. Consumers trade in those old XP boxes and hundreds of millions take the free upgrade. Then maybe within 24 months lots of old IE's will fade away. https://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qpr... Edge appears to be a much better browser: https://html5test.com/results/desktop.html

The upgrade is not free for XP users.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by frou_dh »

tdicola wrote: post #81

Looking at the deprecated features that won't make it to Windows 10 I see: > Solitaire, Minesweeper, and Hearts Games that come pre-installed on Windows 7 will be removed as part of installing the Windows 10 upgrade. Microsoft has released our version of Solitaire and Minesweeper called the “Microsoft Solitaire Collection” and “Microsoft Minesweeper.” Does anyone else find it kind of sad that they killed off the old…

Wouldn't be surprised if, at one time, those Solitaire & Minesweeper might have laid claim to being the most played videogames in the world.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by dhess »

Anyone here know much about Windows licensing? This seems like a good opportunity to ask.

I never run Windows on bare metal. I only run Windows on virtual machines on my Mac desktop and Mac laptop; only for personal use; and only on the rare occasion when I need to run the odd Windows-only application.

I would like to go legit this time around, but it's nigh-impossible to find any specific documentation from Microsoft which states, in plain, simple English, how I would go about getting the proper license to cover my use case. I find this hard to believe as it's 2015 and certainly there must be countless others who do the same as I (and at least a few of them here on HN).

The only official Microsoft document I can find about Windows licensing and virtual machines pertains specifically to business use, and appears to be focused on running Windows in a "Virtual Desktop Infrastructure" (VDI) environment, so I don't believe it applies to me. (I confess I did not read the entire document as it contains so much unfamiliar jargon that I have a hard time parsing it past page one.)

Anyway, from what I can tell by gathering bits and pieces posted on various forums by Microsoft community reps or third-party Microsoft "solution providers," Microsoft expects me to buy a separate, full Windows license for each virtual machine I create, for each host machine I run it on (i.e., M * N licenses).

Can anybody here tell me whether that's correct? Because if that's correct, Microsoft can go fly a kite.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by noinsight »

shocks wrote: post #52
noinsight wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is actually illegal in Finland because it's illegal to circumvent the copy protection. Technically you need a licensed player. A few people have turned themselves in for watching a DVD on Linux and they received a token fine.

How much is the fine?

It's hard to find working links for old stuff (this was in ~2007), but...

The law made "organized discussion" about breaking copy protection illegal so they also created a website with the title "organized discussion" and displayed code for breaking the protection and someone also paid 5 cents for it after which they turned themselves in :)

Apparently the lower courts acquitted them but that was reversed and the supreme court didn't take the case. So the end result is that it's illegal but they didn't receive any penalties. Apparently the European court of human rights didn't accept the case either.

http://mjr.iki.fi/eucd/ (discussed here in Finnish)

http://www.digitoday.fi/yhteiskunta/2008/05/26/dvdn-katselu-... (news article about it)

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

tdicola wrote: post #81

Looking at the deprecated features that won't make it to Windows 10 I see: > Solitaire, Minesweeper, and Hearts Games that come pre-installed on Windows 7 will be removed as part of installing the Windows 10 upgrade. Microsoft has released our version of Solitaire and Minesweeper called the “Microsoft Solitaire Collection” and “Microsoft Minesweeper.” Does anyone else find it kind of sad that they killed off the old…

I recently got a Windows Phone and installed the 10 preview - I was pretty amazed to see ads and "powerups" in Minesweeper! It is indeed sad that they've gone and ruined it.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

thescrewdriver wrote: post #38

Be sure to read the licensing fine print about data collection for advertising etc. https://edri.org/microsofts-new-small-print-how-your-persona... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9966236

I've been on the preview since the beginning, when I installed the supposedly "final" build (10240?) about a week ago it ran through a wizard that allowed me to disable this functionality.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by germanier »

noinsight wrote: post #43
shocks wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can use VLC. After your comment, I wasn't sure why that was the case. Apparently: > Neither French law nor European conventions recognize software as patentable (see French section below). Therefore, software patents licenses do not apply on VideoLAN software. From http://www.videolan.org/legal.html

That is actually illegal in Finland because it's illegal to circumvent the copy protection. Technically you need a licensed player. A few people have turned themselves in for watching a DVD on Linux and they received a token fine.

I'm pretty sure it isn't (anymore) in all cases or it would run afoul EU Directive 2001/29 (see also the ECJ Nintendo case of 2014).

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by ionised »

bad_user wrote: post #29

So when you upgrade to Windows 10, do you get a Windows 10 license key?

If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows 10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10 upgrade offer.

From;

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-10/media-creation...

Which makes it sound like you don't, and can only upgrade or clean install on a single machine. I hope this is incorrect because I'm planning to upgrade my machine in 6 months.

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