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Who are the security services employed by? I certainly wouldn't call them private industry! Did you mean to say it's not elected government officials? Just curious, because I definitely consider a country's intelligence apparatus to be completely and wholly part of its "government", and would be surprised to find someone who didn't.
Read about the Dulles brothers. They forged very strong connections between overt and covert foreign policy and industry.
There won't be a ban, it will be licensed. Big companies like banks etc will get their licence right away, so your secure banking will be fine. Routers will still have wifi encryption because they'll have a licence. The licence will be implemented as a fee for a digital certificate that properly authenticates. So, you're a small startup with an idea for a secure messaging app. want a licence. no problem, its £10M. ha…
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Doesn't this seem insane? You are advocating punishing some 64 million people because of one idiot.
The point is to get those 64 million people to tell the one idiot to stop being an idiot.
Temporary, short-term downside to cure a semi-permanent problem seems reasonable.
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I would be very surprised if Apple and Facebook (and Google, with GMail, GTalk, Hangouts, etc) didn't use this golden opportunity to swing their weight about and assert who's really in charge of technology around here, by simply wholesale blocking use of all their communication tools in the UK to comply with the law. I have a feeling that if they did this, the uproar would be sufficient to have the law reversed by em…
Quite seriously, if there was any collusion between companies which had operations on UK soil, I'd imagine this could be seen as cartel-like behavior and grounds for legal action within the UK. Of course, if only the UK was part of the Trans-Pacific Partnership... then Google and Github might be able to take the UK government to private court to protest the law in the first place, and sue for lost profits... wait...…
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Given current trends, I'm guessing national root certificate as a license to MITM all traffic.
Do you honestly think that could happen? How? Who would co-operate? Which OS or browser vendor would knowingly distribute such a certificate? Not even Microsoft or Apple would co-operate, let alone Mozilla or the Linux distros... And it's not as if they can do it secretly. If they suddenly started to MITM all TLS traffic in the country by replacing the certs with certs signed by the national root, it would get notice…
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That was my second paragraph - and to be clear, they don't want to ban it, they want to backdoor it. My idea was that rather than ban it outright and make it like most other internet traffic (decrypted on a server), they could mandate some kind of cacheing of the _encrypted_ data on the server. Then, once they'd lawfully executed a warrant to grab the suspects phone, they can decrypt at their leisure. Apps using per-…
I'll be very surprised if Apple compromises on this issue. I'll be similarly surprised if Google accepts that kind of compromise. Few things would surprise me about what Facebook is willing to do, but I think this would shock me if fb was willing to go for what you are talking about. The world is run by technology companies now. Not governments. Governments haven't caught on to this yet, at least officially. But the…
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Do you honestly think that could happen? How? Who would co-operate? Which OS or browser vendor would knowingly distribute such a certificate? Not even Microsoft or Apple would co-operate, let alone Mozilla or the Linux distros... And it's not as if they can do it secretly. If they suddenly started to MITM all TLS traffic in the country by replacing the certs with certs signed by the national root, it would get notice…
S. Korea has a block cipher that no other country uses. Almost all S. Korean internet users install a plugin which allows them to browse the S. Korean internet since all S. Korean internet businesses must use that cipher. The UK could require that all companies that wish to do business in the UK must use the UK's CA. This would incentivize users to install the CA and incentivize vendors to pre-install it.
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Read about the Dulles brothers. They forged very strong connections between overt and covert foreign policy and industry.
I don't see why gorgak's comment got flagged unto death. The Dulles brothers caused the term "banana republic" to be coined by O. Henry because the US government was toppling governments and killing large numbers of people on behalf of United Fruit. It is also generally accepted that the Communism scare they put up was bunk.