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Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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Post by stefanobernardi »

skrebbel wrote: post #70
tricolon wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What your parent might be talking about is the distinction between a product that is continually supported by the creator (such as a hardware device with software that can be updated) and an artefact that is produced and then effectively forgotten about by the creator (though there might exist a first- or third-party market for repair and maintenance). I have a feeling that many auto manufacturers still think more in…

My point is that the vast, vast, vast amount of products out there don't have auto-update. This includes my morning cereal, my fancy designer dustbin, my bicycle, my microwave, and my 2-year old son's favourite teddybeardogthing. To only call something a product when it has auto-update is such ridiculous HN navel gazing that it's just funny. EDIT: removed useless rant for fear of losing even more internet points!

Agreed on the terms. It's just that I don't have a better terms, given that we work with digital constantly upgradable web apps and native apps and we still call them "products".

Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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Post by dragontamer »

prplhaz4 wrote: post #29
dxhdr wrote: post #14

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They're very similar, 2.8 vs 2.9 is not that big of a deal. The GT-R NISMO is perhaps even faster but again, fairly similar. Regardless these are expensive cars (>$100k) with impressive performance no doubt. It's worth pointing out that the Tesla P85D is not the only 100k car with that performance available.

a tenth of a second for a 0-60 time actually is kind of a big deal...the closer you get to zero the harder it is to shave off that additional tenth...traction also becomes a very real limitation...bravo to the Tesla team. Also, i'm pretty sure the Tesla IS the only $100k luxury sedan with that performance right now. Very few pure sports cars make it under 3s.

Its probably _because_ of traction actually. A internal combustion engine has to worry about gears and gear switching. Even if the gear takes a short-time to switch, that is a penalty that the electric cars do not face.

The Tesla can provide smooth acceleration from 0 to 60. No combustion engine can accomplish that feat... although some hybrid supercars are beginning to incorporate electric motors for that reason.

Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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Post by JoshTriplett »

larrys wrote: post #32
liamk wrote: post #3

Amazing, that's as fast as the Lamborghini Aventador https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_Aventador

Note that 0 to 60 is not always what matters. I have a Porsche Macan S (small SUV) which has 0 to 60 times in the 5 second range. But the acceleration from 50 to 95 (the point that your realize you are going to fast) feels almost split second. The 2012 911 that I had had much better 0 to 60 times (in the 4's) but even with a 7 speed manual transmission didn't have the kick that the Macan has at the upper end. [1] (An…

The difference is that there aren't posted acceleration limits, only speed limits. (And more generally, speed reduces available reaction time and increases your inertia in a collision, which is why it's the sensible thing to limit.) The only limits on acceleration are the general requirements to drive safely. So 0-60 is a lot more interesting than -95, unless you're driving on the autobahn.

Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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Post by forgotpasswd3x »

tdicola wrote: post #24
DanBlake wrote: post #12

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The GTR is 2.9 seconds, so the tesla is faster- Its also faster in the 1/4 mile as well, so this is kind of a big deal. I believe this is the fastest production car under 300k that you can buy.

The Ariel Atom 500 (with the V8) is a little bit faster at 2.3 seconds 0-60. However it's not really a daily driver kind of car like the Tesla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIiWhWpzFQQ

For anyone else that's curious what the Ariel Atom 500 looks like... http://i.imgur.com/n8KG8Qk.jpg

Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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Post by tdicola »

bwilliams18 wrote: post #69
tdicola wrote: post #24

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The Ariel Atom 500 (with the V8) is a little bit faster at 2.3 seconds 0-60. However it's not really a daily driver kind of car like the Tesla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIiWhWpzFQQ

I wouldn't describe the Atom as a true production car.

People build it and then you can exchange money to receive one, how does that not qualify as a production car? Some are even built in the US (by TMI) and you can find them at dealerships: http://arielatom.com/locate-dealer/ A friend has one and it's perfectly legal to license, register, and drive on the street in some states. It has all the federal auto requirements like indicators, brake lights, etc. and can even pass a e-check (as long as you bought one with a catalytic converter).

Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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Post by skrebbel »

stefanobernardi wrote: post #79
skrebbel wrote: post #57

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What? I think I know what you mean, but how the hell are BMW not thinking of their cars as "actual products"?

All of the responses got what I meant, which I realize is not clear. I mean a non-disposable, dynamic and upgradable hardware product. This is the first time that I see this in the hardware world, where every object is manufactured and then all plans are towards a V2 or a new product. The few exceptions are for recalls, but that's obviously a different story.

Good point. It's pretty sad that even Android phones have a worse track record than a car with this stuff.

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Post by vvanders »

theonlyhighlndr wrote: post #50
liamk wrote: post #3

Amazing, that's as fast as the Lamborghini Aventador https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_Aventador

In a straight line... The Tesla weighs more than an F150 and corners like a boat

It certainly weights a bit, but the CoG is much lower than any ICE car due to the battery pack running along the floor.

That gives it much better handling characteristics than an equivalent ICE car.

Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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Post by ck2 »

epmatsw wrote: post #56
ck2 wrote: post #39

No-one needs this, I predict accidents. I hope insurance companies can determine which models have this and inexperienced drivers should pay more. Just hope no-one kills anyone.

Well that's a pretty silly way to look at this. No one needs a car that can go faster than 85mph, but pretty much every car on the market can break that limit. What makes this different?

It takes a lot more effort to go more than 85mph (and the engine has to work differently depending on the environment).

Someone stepping on the pedal and being where a pedestrian is in 2 seconds could be very fatal for inexperienced drivers.

Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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Post by tthayer »

stefanobernardi wrote: post #9

Even if not a software update, I still find Tesla's way of thinking of a car as an actual (continuously update/upgrade-able) product fascinating. Very rare for hardware. It gives an amazing user experience, "Hey restart your car and it's now got X and Y". Respect. Edit: clarifying the term "product".

Agreed. The 2015 Mazda3 we just bought has a horrible info/nav system that crashes and frequently stops responding. I'm guessing the actual chance of it ever being fixed at 0%. Tesla's get an automatic OTA update that would fix that kind of thing and it wouldn't be something you'd have to 'deal' with for the rest of your ownership of the vehicle.

Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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Post by taejo »

skrebbel wrote: post #70
tricolon wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What your parent might be talking about is the distinction between a product that is continually supported by the creator (such as a hardware device with software that can be updated) and an artefact that is produced and then effectively forgotten about by the creator (though there might exist a first- or third-party market for repair and maintenance). I have a feeling that many auto manufacturers still think more in…

My point is that the vast, vast, vast amount of products out there don't have auto-update. This includes my morning cereal, my fancy designer dustbin, my bicycle, my microwave, and my 2-year old son's favourite teddybeardogthing. To only call something a product when it has auto-update is such ridiculous HN navel gazing that it's just funny. EDIT: removed useless rant for fear of losing even more internet points!

Your morning cereal isn't auto-updated in the box, obviously, but the recipe is presumably tweaked quasi-continuously without calling it Corn Flakes 2.1 or something like that.
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