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How Apple’s iCloud Drive deletes your files without warning

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Re: How Apple’s iCloud Drive deletes your files without warning

#81

Title is misleading. This is an isolated edge case, although clearly one that should be addressed.

Agree, this is an awful long article for a bug report. Sure, it's a bad bug, but it's still a bug. Treating Apple like they wronged us morally isn't exactly the most effective path to a timely solution.

Re: How Apple’s iCloud Drive deletes your files without warning

#82
post #13

Dropbox's event log has saved me so many times. I have recovered pictures of my family that mean a great deal to me. I even get an email if lots of files were deleted, and the API is amazing. That's why I love Dropbox, the file sync is their bread and butter, their core business and not just a feature.

"Dropbox is a feature, not a product" - Steve Jobs

"Not losing my data" is a feature, too.

Re: How Apple’s iCloud Drive deletes your files without warning

#83
post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"And iBooks dropped all metadata at some point" The worst part of that is that there is no way to manually export that data and back it up yourself. Its worse now because Apple is only providing some information as ebooks and not pdfs. So, I get something that can loose my notes and I cannot print out (sorry, I sometimes like to read on something without an LCD).

I really hope to see in my lifetime a move back to user owned data and a distributed internet again. This whole centralization and proprietary nature of things is really not to my taste. If anyone is going to lose my stuff, I want it to be me or at the very least allow me to back up all my own data to my own backup. Maybe I'm totally wrong, but I just don't like this whole move to cloud computing and centralized data…

If anyone is going to lose my stuff, I want it to be me

Tragically, the modal user has no backups and is more likely to lose their stuff than the cloud providers, at least in the medium term. This and the security issue lead to what Schneier calls the "feudal system": pick a provider, trust them with everything, hope for the best.

Re: How Apple’s iCloud Drive deletes your files without warning

#85
iCloud is a disaster. I can't even remember the things it does to address books, calendars and notes. I am trying to block the memory of having to explain to my MD wife why almost her entire calendar, address book and notes EVAPORATED when she decided she did not want her phone to connect to iCloud. In this case 100% of her data had been entered through the phone. However, iCloud somehow decided anything that lived on iCloud and had been updated in any way from any machine had to be deleted iCloud AND the phone once she turned off iCloud.

I think iCloud is quite revealing of Apple's incompetence as well as the contempt they have for the very users they claim to love. The fact that they think this is OK and normal is, in my opinion, quite disturbing. The same applies to changes made to OSX over the last few years. Incomprehensible, arrogant and full of contempt for users.

Re: How Apple’s iCloud Drive deletes your files without warning

#86
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post #44

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Don't know about that. OS X is a mighty fine OS, iOS is the best mobile OS, Logic gets top points as a DAW, etc etc.

OS X was mighty fine. It's been getting progressively worse in my opinion.

I use Mac OS X for more than 10 years and I have seen no problem other than normal sporadic bugs that are always fixed in the next minor version. I don't see any reason to believe that it got worse over the years.

Re: How Apple’s iCloud Drive deletes your files without warning

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post #2

This isn't just an Apple thing. iCloud was designed for mobile, and one thing I've observed about mobile OSes is that (so far) they treat user data with an indifference that is approaching contempt. Mobile devices/OSes are for consuming and messaging or accessing remote systems as a glorified ultra-portable dumb terminal. They're not designed for creating or handling/storing important data.

More photos are taken using mobiles than ever have with cameras. If photos of your children aren't important then I don't know what is.

Re: How Apple’s iCloud Drive deletes your files without warning

#88
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) Other devices don't see the files that are still being uploaded 2) Tried creating a folder, uploading 200 MB file in it and moving the folder to to local drive. Works as expected. After upload finished, the folder reappeared with the file in it. So, the files waiting to be uploaded won't disappear.

This seems to contradict the claim in the article. Am I interpreting it wrong?

I think you are interpreting it wrong. The article is talking about all your files are already in iCloud Drive, and then you get a new Mac and move stuff around.

Re: How Apple’s iCloud Drive deletes your files without warning

#89

I think it is safe to say that Apple iCloud is not a backup product, but merely a file synchronisation tool. I never liked the idea of stub files with tools like this. I used Livedrive a few years ago and the whole stub files gives a false sense of security. The only benefit it provided was I could double click the stub file and prioritise the download.

But I don't think the user was using it as a backup, it was using it as a storage product. As in, I'm working on a file across multiple devices, so I'm going to store it in iCloud Drive so everything is kept up to date.

Theoretically.

Re: How Apple’s iCloud Drive deletes your files without warning

#90

I have a close friend who is homeless. He synched his iCloud to iPhoto on my Mac. I later learned that he is a heroin addict. Now he has disappeared. I dont have a clue what happened to him. I had a look through his photos recently. Only a few came from his time of homelessness. In the others he is far healthier, more muscular and surrounded by friends, family and coworkers. I resigned in protest from AMCC because I…

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