Didn't youtube start the same way?
YouTube started under much different circumstances. Facebook doesn't really have an excuse.
Facebook’s Piracy Problem
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Re: Facebook’s Piracy Problem
#82A radical idea: Maybe our model of intellectual property is wrong, or outdated. When IP was tied to a physical object, it made some sense to restrict and explicitly license each reproducer. Now we have incredible machines that can reproduce intellectual property almost infinitely, distribute it anywhere on Earth, and find it almost anywhere on Earth. Wow! Maybe we should embrace that innovation, and find a model that…
We did embrace it. We passed laws to embrace and encourage the creation of new ideas. It's called copyright. It works pretty well when enforced. Less well when it's not. There may be choices that are even better. Policy proposals are welcome.
Re: Facebook’s Piracy Problem
#83Ironically, at the end of the tattoo video that was pirated, Destin Sandlin, the host, is seen wearing [a shirt]( http://www.amazon.com/Stand-Going-Science-T-Shirt-Scientists... ) that is a blatant rip off of an Randall Munroe's (XKCD) [shirt]( http://store-xkcd-com.myshopify.com/products/try-science ).
How is that ironic? Should every consumer be assumed to check the origins of every purchase?
Re: Facebook’s Piracy Problem
#84A radical idea: Maybe our model of intellectual property is wrong, or outdated. When IP was tied to a physical object, it made some sense to restrict and explicitly license each reproducer. Now we have incredible machines that can reproduce intellectual property almost infinitely, distribute it anywhere on Earth, and find it almost anywhere on Earth. Wow! Maybe we should embrace that innovation, and find a model that…
IP developed when things like the printing press already let us reproduce the content almost infinitely and distribute it anywhere on earth.
It's actually the entire point of IP. Copying it is so easy compared to the creation of the work itself. So we legally restrict it.
>A third: Many creative people are motivated to do great things withhout payment.
Sure, but many aren't. Even more aren't willing to do boring, yet necessary projects. Finally, IP existing doesn't hold back FOSS at all.
Also, not all types of creative work lend itself to FOSS-like material. Many require extensive capital to get working.
Re: Facebook’s Piracy Problem
#85A radical idea: Maybe our model of intellectual property is wrong, or outdated. When IP was tied to a physical object, it made some sense to restrict and explicitly license each reproducer. Now we have incredible machines that can reproduce intellectual property almost infinitely, distribute it anywhere on Earth, and find it almost anywhere on Earth. Wow! Maybe we should embrace that innovation, and find a model that…
> A radical idea: Maybe our model of intellectual property is wrong, or outdated.
Honestly, that's not really radical. It seems to be pretty clear to anyone who knows anything about computers. There may be flaws your other thoughts, as other commenters have suggested, but not with the first one.
The big problem -- in the U.S. anyway -- is that there are huge companies with a vested interest in maintaining something like the late-ish 20th century copyright regime. These make campaign contributions to lawmakers, who pass laws in their favor, which allow them to continue making money, which they contribute to lawmakers, etc. It appears to me that little is going to change until that cycle is broken.
Re: Facebook’s Piracy Problem
#86A radical idea: Maybe our model of intellectual property is wrong, or outdated. When IP was tied to a physical object, it made some sense to restrict and explicitly license each reproducer. Now we have incredible machines that can reproduce intellectual property almost infinitely, distribute it anywhere on Earth, and find it almost anywhere on Earth. Wow! Maybe we should embrace that innovation, and find a model that…
"Perhaps financial renumeration, while fair, isn't entirely necessary" Is it that in your world, eating and paying the rent isn't necessary either? 'Many' creative people sounds like some programmers, which is somewhat small subset of all creatives. I'd be surprised if the majority of creative people — artists, writers, actors, and more — would happily go about saying that financial renumeration doesn't matter to the…
But saying that being paid to be creative isn't necessarily [sic] means that you get very little art, if at all.
Humans have always created art. Modern conceptions of intellectual property have not always existed. Why would art depend on that?
Re: Facebook’s Piracy Problem
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
In case anyone hasn't seen Destin's videos (smarter every day), I'd like to mention that he's an incredibly interesting and engaging person who puts out really high quality content. If you're like me, and think of the pieces of shit that run the RIAA when you hear about piracy complaints... it's worth watching Destin and his videos to see a much more sympathetic actor. (Also, his big beef seems to be facebook's incen…
I think Destin's videos and attitude toward science are pretty top notch. I just don't share all of his views on copyright.
Did you watch his video where he explains his views himself? I find it pretty convincing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6A1Lt0kvMA
Interestingly, a lot of people are getting very frustrated with Facebook for other reasons as well. Famously, there's Veritasium's video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVfHeWTKjag
I can really appreciate what they're feeling. With piracy as we have traditionally known it, at least usually the pirate is not directly profiting from his act of piracy. With freebooting, Facebook is literally profiting from other people's work. It's directly diverting money flow from the creator (who REALLY NEED THE MONEY) to Facebook. I think it's plainly ridiculous this is happening, and obviously Facebook will turn a blind eye to it because it's making them money. This is one of the reasons why I encourage whitehat security researchers to turn a little gray when it comes to Facebook and do things to bring them down, it'll be for the greater good to bring the behemoth down.
Re: Facebook’s Piracy Problem
#88Ironically, at the end of the tattoo video that was pirated, Destin Sandlin, the host, is seen wearing [a shirt]( http://www.amazon.com/Stand-Going-Science-T-Shirt-Scientists... ) that is a blatant rip off of an Randall Munroe's (XKCD) [shirt]( http://store-xkcd-com.myshopify.com/products/try-science ).
Names, titles and short phrases are not protected by copyright. http://copyright.gov/circs/circ34.pdf If you'd like to take that phrase and make a better T-shirt, it's perfectly legal for you to do so.
Re: Facebook’s Piracy Problem
#89This seems pretty common in British newspapers, even outside facebook. Videos often appear on newspaper's own sites instead of embedding the YouTube video. For example this from the Guardian ( http://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2015/apr/29/ed-mil... ). Others are similar and often even have their own pre-rolls. Channel4 has whole TV programme, Rude Tube ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rude_Tube ), devoted to i…
Yeah, a friend had his video taken by a British paper, stripped of its credits, embedded in an article and then uploaded to their YouTube channel. He sent them an invoice for usage but I haven't heard what the outcome was.
Re: Facebook’s Piracy Problem
#90This seems pretty common in British newspapers, even outside facebook. Videos often appear on newspaper's own sites instead of embedding the YouTube video. For example this from the Guardian ( http://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2015/apr/29/ed-mil... ). Others are similar and often even have their own pre-rolls. Channel4 has whole TV programme, Rude Tube ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rude_Tube ), devoted to i…
FYI: When a video goes "viral", one is quickly contacted by agencies(happened to me). They have standard deals with big media corporations, and handles the licensing. It frees the creator from having to make deals with hundreds of news papers. So, at least some of the big pages that use other's videos have paid to do so.