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Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by empressplay »

frizbee wrote: post #20
empressplay wrote: post #2

It's a bit of a stretch to call this "decentralised" when it still relies on software running on a "master" server (your bot.) Second, if it is indeed fully anonymous, won't it just become a haven for trolls?

Even though many playlist servers run on the frizbee.co server, some are community-owned. Feel free to host a decentralized server here: https://github.com/Frizbeeco/Frizbee/blob/master/documentati... You can also block users for spam.

Okay right, but it's not _decentralised_ -- if it was, I would be able to run a completely stand-alone server, or join an arbitrary network of servers completely unrelated to yours just by punching in the IP address of another member server.

If I _must_ have anything to do with you, it's not decentralised. Distributed, maybe. But _not_ decentralised.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by NeutronBoy »

__z wrote: post #63
austenallred wrote: post #54

It looks like you're off to a good start. There's design cleanup to do, for sure. Ya, there are buts that people can clear cookies and vote again - welcome to the world of building social news software. There will be two key moments with this: 1. Will people stick around after this is off the front page of HN? 2. When people decide to game your site, how well do you handle voting rings? The reddit founders have menti…

Wouldn't "handling vote rings" be a form of "censorship"?

You have a right to say what you want, you don't have a right to manipulate the ranking of the content.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by NeutronBoy »

__z wrote: post #63
austenallred wrote: post #54

It looks like you're off to a good start. There's design cleanup to do, for sure. Ya, there are buts that people can clear cookies and vote again - welcome to the world of building social news software. There will be two key moments with this: 1. Will people stick around after this is off the front page of HN? 2. When people decide to game your site, how well do you handle voting rings? The reddit founders have menti…

Wouldn't "handling vote rings" be a form of "censorship"?

You have a right to say what you want, you don't have a right to manipulate the ranking of the content.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by empressplay »

minimaxir wrote: post #6

Let's look at what happened to Voat. After people claimed Reddit was censoring users by banning /r/fatpeoplehate, the more unsavory users flocked to Voat, a blatant Reddit clone. As you would expect, said unsavory people posted unsavory content. Said unsavory content, while free and uncensored, was not legal , and that causes problems: http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3avyem/voat_... Said issues caused…

It's not even decentralised -- if it was, I should just be able to set up a server, and connect it to any other server, and have a network. AFAICT you're forced to connect to Frizbee's servers / network and register, and that by definition makes it centralised.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by empressplay »

frizbee wrote: post #18
koko775 wrote: post #10

No censorship as in no moderation? No thanks. No censorship as in no punishing the stalking and threatening of others? Also no thanks. I want free speech where people are free with their speech, not unrestrained speech (specifically) where people feel free to hurt others.

Hi, Just to clarify, the owners of particular playlist servers can moderate them as they choose. The difference is that because of the decentralization aspect, it is not chosen by a central entity.

I'm still not following how that's any different than just owning a subreddit. If I own a subreddit I can moderate the posts in it. Under your model, you're suggesting that I can "moderate" posts that initiate from my server, but not others, and once again I'm still not sure what advantage that has over owning a subreddit?

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by frizbee »

empressplay wrote: post #85
frizbee wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, Just to clarify, the owners of particular playlist servers can moderate them as they choose. The difference is that because of the decentralization aspect, it is not chosen by a central entity.

I'm still not following how that's any different than just owning a subreddit. If I own a subreddit I can moderate the posts in it. Under your model, you're suggesting that I can "moderate" posts that initiate from my server, but not others, and once again I'm still not sure what advantage that has over owning a subreddit?

Frizbee itself is not going to censor their content.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by empressplay »

thefreeman wrote: post #25

Can anyone clarify what is decentralized about this? I clicked around a few threads on the site and they all appear to be hosted at frizbee.co.

It's not decentralised. You have the ability to run a node. Your node communicates exclusively with frizbee's servers.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by __z »

pfranz wrote: post #79
__z wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what does [wow](file:///etc/passwd) do?

"wow" will appear as a link with a URL pointing to the file on your local disk /etc/passwd. In UNIX/Linux /etc/passwd is a plaintext file used to list users accounts. In the old days it would store their password, too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passwd#Password_file

ah... I didn't recognize it as markdown.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by teraflop »

bhouston wrote: post #50
x0 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this website is another reaction to reddit, you're only going to attract the absolute dregs of that site — /r/fatpeoplehate, the pedophiles, the gamergaters, etc. If someone creates a Frizbee server full of child abuse material, and it becomes popular, and is always on the front page, what would you do? Also, I made a comment on Frizbee that consisted of `[wow](file:///etc/passwd)`, and it let me post it. You prob…

Child abuse and pedophilia is straight-out illegal and can not be hosted on voat.co.

I wonder why this thread on /r/legaladvice exists, then: http://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/3avuxs/really_w...

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by frizbee »

__z wrote: post #78
adamrezich wrote: post #66

I don't want to be That Guy, but I really don't think the UI is very intuitive. A lot of things really bug me about it. It's hard to peruse a list of posts and scan headlines, unlike on Hacker News or reddit. You compose comments with a serif font, and then the comment is posted with a sans-serif font. It appears as if all URLs are just frizbee.co/#SomethingGoesHere, regardless of what it is. This makes me lost a lot…

Its even worse than that. Navigation is just totally broken. For example I clicked your link then on that page I clicked Our Manifesto. The URL changed to https://frizbee.co/#OurManifesto5589a552786d5 but the page content did not change! This seems to happen all over. Totally dont need to re-engineer hyperlinks. They are hyperlinks! (logo in the left hand corner does change the url to https://frizbee.co/#HotPosts but…

These glitches have since been fixed.
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