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Re: Programmer search engine

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Speaking of, I wonder how many millions an open HN job board could make? The people I'd like to hire are stackoverflow, github, and HN users.

PG can we please do this? We're looking to hire 15+ people right now and we are running out of good people in Toronto.

I am in Toronto. What exactly are you looking for ?

Re: Programmer search engine

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Won't this have the same problem as linkedin, programmers will delist themselves when they started getting daily calls from desperate recruiters ?

Stack Overflow charges quite a bit of money for the right to search for candidates (plans range from $500 for one week access to $5000 for a year) so that should limit the number of inquiries. Also, you can easily remove yourself from the search results.

In the financial sector recruiters can typically make around $50k for placing a single senior dev, paying an annual 5k fee is nothing

Re: Programmer search engine

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PG can we please do this? We're looking to hire 15+ people right now and we are running out of good people in Toronto.

I am in Toronto. What exactly are you looking for ?

Tons of positions. Developers, DBAs, UX designers, design leads, sales, support, marketing managers, community leaders. Send me an email to p.engineer@gmail.com or zach@freshbooks.com. I'll send you all the details, answer your questions, and make sure the CV gets sent around the dev team. If we end up hiring you (or anyone else out there in TO looking for work) I'll split the referral bounty (0 to $5k, depending on the position) 50-50 :)

Re: Programmer search engine

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PG can we please do this? We're looking to hire 15+ people right now and we are running out of good people in Toronto.

If you're willing to work with telecommuters, I'm still looking for a job, with no luck, in the Cincinnati area...

Unfortunately, not yet. What type of work do you do though, I may know some people looking for someone with your skills. See my above comment for my email.

Re: Programmer search engine

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Ah, it's literally a "Search engine for programmers."

Yeah, the results of the search are programmers. The search engine is not necessarily for programmers to use. Bad title.

"Search engine for forty programmers"... my one little digression on HN.

Re: Programmer search engine

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The tone of your post seems condescending - I really hope that the high number of upvotes is not simply a reflection of how popular is it to dislike Joel. I think his post is straight forward - this is a neat way to do specific searches for programmers. Programmers who use SO might or might not be cool, but they are now searchable.

If my tone is condescending, that's because it is. Don't you know how XKCD Explained works? ;) I find it supremely unsurprising that Joel has decided to sell the user info he collects at the website he helped create. He is exactly that kind of person, who wouldn't see anything wrong with that. After all, it's his website and the privacy policy is clear, right? (sigh) But honestly, I don't dislike Joel. I just am irri…

That isn't anywhere close to what Stack Overflow is doing.

This isn't selling user details from Stack Overflow (for which all the data is available for download, by the way: http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2009/06/stack-overflow-creativ...).

It's a separate service, the users of which have to pay to get listed. I'd say that indicates a pretty strong willingness to be contacted by employers.

Re: Programmer search engine

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I said it before and I'll say it again -- charging people looking for jobs is ridiculous. I don't know who the kid in Houston looking for an OCaml internship is, but how the heck does he have $100 to spend on this?

A couple* facts to bear in mind:

(1) The $99 fee is paid up-front, not when (if!) hired. (2) There is a limited-time price reduction (to $29) for 2009. (3) They advertise a 90-day, no-questions-asked money back guarantee.

http://careers.stackoverflow.com/faq#pricing

* "Our chief weapon is surprise... surprise and fear..."

Re: Programmer search engine

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StackOverflow primarily exposes their addictive game-playing, not their communication skills. The rep/badge bullshit encourages inane responses, and the wiki aspects cover the tracks.

It seems to be more about the detailed and correct answer voted up the most that you find from searching something on Google, for that it works really well, not being part of the community there I don't care about that other 10 half assed replies for badges/points

They have a very visible group of users that post a no-assed answer as fast as possible and start doing the same google searches the asker did to pad out their answer. Their bullshit answer will be at the top initially, so they'll have the means to cannibalize the knowledgeable users who follow.

Re: Programmer search engine

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Some people do both. Why gamble on someone who won't show any of his work when you can just pick someone who does?

Some people are plenty mentally stimulated at work and don't feel the need to work on their own projects in their spare time. And sometimes your professional accomplishments are significant enough that a side project is not likely to make you a much more attractive candidate. The people who "do both" often don't fall in these categories. Also a lot of companies don't want their employees to write code for anyone else…

Also a lot of companies don't want their employees to write code for anyone else and will actually see open source contributions as a major red flag.

FUD. I work for a very large corporation, and open source was definitely not a negative when hiring me. Many very important parts of our business are based on open-source technologies. (And many aren't, FWIW.)

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