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What's new in Xcode 7

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Re: What's new in Xcode 7

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Post by WalterGR »

glhaynes wrote: post #2

Unexpected: "Xcode 7 and Swift now make it easier for everyone to build apps and run them directly on their Apple devices. Simply sign in with your Apple ID, and turn your idea into an app that you can touch on your iPad, iPhone, or Apple Watch. Download Xcode 7 beta and try it yourself today. Program membership is not required."

Not being a developer for Apple products, what has changed?

Re: What's new in Xcode 7

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Post by overgard »

Fargren wrote: post #58

Not even a mention of refactoring tools for Swift? Right now you can't even do a Rename. This was one of the biggest reasons I bought Appcode, actually. And I'm still waiting for either IDE to implement Extract Method. It boggles my mind how little I hear people complain about this. Aren't these basic tools by now?

I feel like a lot of basic stuff is broken or non-existent in Xcode. For instance, project text search on my machine freezes up the entire IDE for half an hour, which is ridiculous since A) it's not an unusually large project, and B) it's on an SSD, and it should be running search in a separate thread anyway.. Not to mention last time I used Xcode (6.2) it crashed on me 7 times in the span of an hour on basic things, like unlocking a file. I wish apple would focus on getting the basics right. It sucks because there's not much of an alternative, but it's by far my least favorite IDE to use.

Re: What's new in Xcode 7

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Post by giarc »

laydownlarry wrote: post #57
giarc wrote: post #12

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I love this. I'm thrifty and haven't paid for a dev account but am deep into an app build. When I show clients, there's a bit of an awkward conversation when I explain that I have to show them on my macbook. If I could demo directly on my phone/tablet that would be amazing. Can't wait to use this feature!

you misspelled cheap

Sure, cheap/thrifty whatever. However, I'd rather pay for the dev account when I actually need it. I don't see a huge benefit to paying $100/year while in development. I can accomplish everything I want without it. Once I'm ready to publish the app in the app store, I'll gladly pay $100/year.

Re: What's new in Xcode 7

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Post by smtddr »

halayli wrote: post #15

"Advanced error handling model using try / catch / throw that feels natural in Swift." yeah try/catch is very advanced.

You have to understand though, Swift is like a really nice wrapper around Objective-C. Imagine adding try/catch to C programming language? I know python & java and all of today's relevant high-level languages have it since forever, but implementing that in something that wasn't designed for it from the start is a big task. I'm by no stretch of the imagination an Apple fanatic but as a person who is about to send out their first mobile app, which happens to be for iOS, I acknowledge the difficulty of adding try/catch to Swift... and by extension any Obj-C or plain C used in that same XCode project.

Re: What's new in Xcode 7

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Post by gruez »

comex wrote: post #79
chc wrote: post #60

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> Honestly, if you're charging users, then there's absolutely no question about it, you get the membership. Your entire "expecting the user to do so" point completely goes out the window the second you said it's a paid app. If you have the revenue, then it's simply a cost of doing business in the Apple world. Yes, because Apple demands rent. They create a problem and then charge you to fix it. This is called rent-see…

It is not just rent; it is a security feature. Whether this feature is being used wisely is another question... A few months ago I sent Apple security an email about a fake Flash installer with a valid Developer ID certificate. It turned out that someone else had written an article about the same malware five days ago, and reported it to Apple, yet the certificate was not revoked yet - so it doesn't seem that Apple h…

>thanks to Developer ID, they at least had some kind of payment trail as well as a name, likely making it harder for the same person to get additional certificates

What's preventing me from paying some person in a third world country to get a certificate in his name?

Re: What's new in Xcode 7

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Post by Tloewald »

downandout wrote: post #78
kybernetyk wrote: post #76

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Yet those developers somehow can buy a computer for $1000+ and spend an additional $500-$800 on the tablet/phone? :)

No, they can't. You can run mac operating systems on any cheap intel hardware (and in vmware), and you can easily buy used phones/macs on eBay. Google the term Hackintosh or "vmware mac".

I'm not sure Apple would go far out of its way to help such users.

Re: What's new in Xcode 7

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Post by donarb »

cm2187 wrote: post #72
mullen wrote: post #23

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Personally, that is a total game changer for me. I have an app idea, to build a custom house management app for my wife and I. I really don't care to put it on the app store and I don't want to pay $99 for a two person app. Now I can make an app that only my wife and I will use.

I don't know if it is still the case but last time I checked you had to go through the app store to deploy an iOS app even if it is for personal use.

It never was the case that you had to go through the app store to deploy an app for personal use. The only requirement was to have a paid iOS developer membership.
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