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When will we stop using Facebook?

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Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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I stopped two years ago. As far as I am aware I'm not missing much. I did have a lot of old friends on FB, but I didn't stay in contact with them in real life. I was just lazily snooping on their lives, without giving anything in return. To be completely honest, I don't have space or time for them in my real life. It isn't because I didn't like them anymore, it was simply that I didn't have the time or energy to stay…

The fact that 1.5 billion people use Facebook kind of suggests that you are wrong.

Isn't that 1.5 billion accounts? How many are bots, fake, duplicates, or otherwise not representing exactly 1 person?

Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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The only thing Facebook was ever good for was finding those old friends. Now that you found them, now what? Do you need Facebook? The easy way out is to message all of them saying you are quitting Facebook and ask them for their email address. That's all you ever needed, but there was no index/search engine for it until Facebook. And once you have that part of the index you care about, you'll never need it again.

Hmmm... And I did this (had fb for a few years, deleted for a few, had for a semester abroad, deleted as soon as I had my first steady girlfriend, broke up and now about three and a half years later I'm back on). The problem I found was, as soon as I deleted my fb no one had my e-mail as it was deleted with it my account and messages.

I'm not the biggest fan of facebook obviously, but when I wqs studying abroad in France it really was a handy way to connect with people when I didn't have a cellphone. Now, after deleting for such a long period, I don't have any connection to my old friends which is a shame.

There's the argument that if people wanted to talk to you they'd make it happen but then there's the argument that if you're on facebook people are more likely to talk to you because of the convenience. No one wants to lose touch, and facebook provides and easy way to make sure that (had I not deleted) when I wanted to go back to Europe I'd have easy access for communication lines to the individuals I might want to visit.

Everything is double edged and while I've enjoyed my time off of facebook (why does everyone have to hate on the poorest in America? I will never understand. If the people on welfare were actual leechers maybe they'd own a portion of the country, anyways I digress).

That being said, it's a total privacy invasion, and the people I apparently know don't critically think too often unfortunately even as I try to gently prod, and yet, it has allowed me to find events I might not have gone too, and friends I may not have seen.

I hate to do this to hackernews where the discussion is the key reason I come here... but I did not read the article. Sorry!

Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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See also http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=friendsreunited (in UK) or Digg or MySpace ...

FriendsReunited was /the/ social network [amongst a certain demographic at least] in the UK before anyone knew the term social network. They established a massive userbase including paid for users but Facebook came along and destroyed them, particularly because FR did the paid for communications like LinkedIn do.

Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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Most people are already happily migrating to IM platforms where they can contact people more directly and form relevant ad hoc groups. Facebook was smart enough to recognize that and buy one of them.

I'd be interested in seeing action metrics over time for FB. My gut feeling is that people use it more passively these days (I do, it's mostly a fancy contact book for me). Every now and then I catch myself posting stuff for reasons of "look isn't this great...please like it" but for the most part my FB use is fairly passive these days.

I also feel like I should just delete my FB account for various reasons every now and then but usually talk myself out of it.

Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that 1.5 billion people use Facebook kind of suggests that you are wrong.

Isn't that 1.5 billion accounts? How many are bots, fake, duplicates, or otherwise not representing exactly 1 person?

how many of those are no longer active?

Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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I really should flesh out my "why you can't have a good distributed social network" post some time. What does FB provide that you don't get with a combination of email/USENET/blogs/chat? Branding, janitors, and indexing. Branding is useful because these things are so scale-driven that you want to be on the one that everyone else is using. It's easier for the uninvolved to figure this out if it's the one with huge adv…

That's a lot of words to say that people use facebook because it's convenient.

That's rather like saying that people use Apple because it has good UX: true, but perhaps we want to unpack it into specifics in order to improve our own work.

Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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post #34

I stopped two years ago. As far as I am aware I'm not missing much. I did have a lot of old friends on FB, but I didn't stay in contact with them in real life. I was just lazily snooping on their lives, without giving anything in return. To be completely honest, I don't have space or time for them in my real life. It isn't because I didn't like them anymore, it was simply that I didn't have the time or energy to stay…

It doesn't take a lot of effort to maintain contact with people that are important in our life today. The relationships that are important to us need to be nurtured, not followed. Facebook has created this (inadvertent) anti-social follow use case, and I think a lot of people have fallen into it.

Eh, I remember the days of trying to keep in touch via email, and not getting replies, or feeling bad that I wasn't sending a reply. Just to keep in general contact, with no specific goal in mind. I don't look forward to going back to them.

Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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I really should flesh out my "why you can't have a good distributed social network" post some time. What does FB provide that you don't get with a combination of email/USENET/blogs/chat? Branding, janitors, and indexing. Branding is useful because these things are so scale-driven that you want to be on the one that everyone else is using. It's easier for the uninvolved to figure this out if it's the one with huge adv…

I don't really get the first point about scale and brand, because the examples you give like email are built on open protocols, so it's the protocol itself that is the brand. I don't need a particular brand of email client to send emails to someone.

Yes, but the choice has to be made to use email rather than Facebook, iMessage, LinkedIn, etc. For some people it's the default, but there is always advertising trying to tempt them away. Email doesn't really have a brand identity.

Note how easily email converges on big email providers too, rather than everyone running their own services. Gmail is definitely a brand. Lo and behold, Gmail is a service that is "free" but paid for by selling analysis of the content of your emails.

Re: When will we stop using Facebook?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No social network does a good job at allowing a person to share with those groups as desired. Doesn't g+ solve this with the whole "circles" idea? You control which groups you share with.

Sorry, I actually forgot about g+, since none of my friends/family/acquaintances actually use it... mostly followed industry people's posts for a while, but I get most of that on twitter. G+ was a really nice imo way to work through it... too bad nobody used it in practice. I also hope that they work through a few of the issues I have with hangouts, mostly in taking over Google Voice duties, and the limited UX on the…

I remember having an idea to make something like G+ as a response to the "which groups really see what" issue shortly before G+ launched. Glad I didn't try executing on that one. Having tried G+ though I think it's too cognitively complex to categorise a few hundred contacts into various subgroups. Most users aren't going to bother. I imagine facebook takes an automatic AI type approach as to which posts it shows to which people so techie posts are more likely to go to techies. Anyone know if that's the case? Might be a gap to do that stuff it facebook is not already on it.
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