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Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by falcolas »

Someone1234 wrote: post #64
geerlingguy wrote: post #42

Actual product page: http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/products/surface-3 And buy now page with tech specs: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productI... Looks like $499 for 64GB storage and 2GB RAM, $599 for 128GB storage and 4GB of RAM (WiFi models; 4G LTE model pricing wasn't showing for me).

That 2 GB, 64 GB model just looks painful to use. I've seen a lot of Windows installs use up more than 64 GB, in particular as WinSXS grows as more updates are installed (thus more duplicate DLLs are stored). If anyone asked me, I'd describe 128 GB as the "minimum" storage needed for Windows. And even then you aren't storing much if any user data on it. 4 GB is the minimum I'd run anything newer than Windows XP on. T…

If I recall correctly, the memory reported as being used by the OS includes disk caches. I'd also want at least 4GB, though, if I'm running a full windows install and want to multi-task.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by dman »

imaginenore wrote: post #75
geerlingguy wrote: post #42

Actual product page: http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/products/surface-3 And buy now page with tech specs: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productI... Looks like $499 for 64GB storage and 2GB RAM, $599 for 128GB storage and 4GB of RAM (WiFi models; 4G LTE model pricing wasn't showing for me).

For $500 I can get a real ultrabook. Like Dell XPS 11 2560 x 1440 display 4GB RAM 128GB SSD http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/665236/Dell-XPS-11-XPS...

Not a very fair comparision since at this point that laptop is EOL'ed and its original price is 1199.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by cwyers »

Someone1234 wrote: post #64
geerlingguy wrote: post #42

Actual product page: http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/products/surface-3 And buy now page with tech specs: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productI... Looks like $499 for 64GB storage and 2GB RAM, $599 for 128GB storage and 4GB of RAM (WiFi models; 4G LTE model pricing wasn't showing for me).

That 2 GB, 64 GB model just looks painful to use. I've seen a lot of Windows installs use up more than 64 GB, in particular as WinSXS grows as more updates are installed (thus more duplicate DLLs are stored). If anyone asked me, I'd describe 128 GB as the "minimum" storage needed for Windows. And even then you aren't storing much if any user data on it. 4 GB is the minimum I'd run anything newer than Windows XP on. T…

It feels like the Surface 3 is coming out a few months too early in some respects, as the disk space improvements in Windows 10 are going to make it a lot more palatable on the $499 model:

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/03/16/how-wind...

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by sz4kerto »

[deleted] wrote: post #65
sz4kerto wrote: post #46

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> it runs windows, and I have no interest in that Then it's definitely not your device. It's main point is that it runs full Windows. If I were using Macbook + iPhone, I would not think at all about buying this. It's probably more interesting for people like me who want to work on Windows and/or Linux, but definitely nothing from Apple. :) (I have no problem with the company or the products in general, just they don'…

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Off topic, but karma is useless and you should not care -- standing by your opinion is worth more than imaginary internet points.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by imaginenore »

freehunter wrote: post #12
lostgame wrote: post #5

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When I can actually download an MP3 from my browser and open it on my iPad I'll consider using it as an actual thing again. Until then? It's not a computer. This is.

Kind of off topic, but related: I recently bought an audio book from Humble Bundle and have been trying to figure out how to put it on my iPhone.I don't listen to audio books at home, only in the car or while I'm walking. Anyone know how to easily download an audiobook from Humble Bundle and put it on an iPhone to listen to later?

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Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by Someone1234 »

wz1000 wrote: post #24

Does anybody have experience of running Linux on previous Surface devices?

I'm not saying don't do it. I am just suggesting that you may have a better user experience buying something more traditional like a Macbook Air.

I suggest this for one simple reason: Many of the Surface's features are ultimately software/driver driven. For example, the keyboard, the pen (both halfs), even much of the touch interaction, and on screen keyboard.

So unless you have really incredible driver support, the Surface is going to just be obnoxious to try and use. You might wind up with a USB keyboard/mouse plugged in most of the time.

Can it be done? Maybe. Should it? Depends how much you like pain.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by [deleted] »

M4v3R wrote: post #45
freehunter wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kind of off topic, but related: I recently bought an audio book from Humble Bundle and have been trying to figure out how to put it on my iPhone.I don't listen to audio books at home, only in the car or while I'm walking. Anyone know how to easily download an audiobook from Humble Bundle and put it on an iPhone to listen to later?

As others said - canonical way is to use iTunes. Another way is to use app like GoodReader, which has a file system of its own, you can create folders, and you can download files from websites/URLs to them. GoodReader can not only store and organize your files, but it also opens all the popular formats in the app (PDFs, images, MP3s, etc.).

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Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by freehunter »

Someone1234 wrote: post #30

I own a Surface Pro 3, and when I first got it I'd describe the experience as just mediocre. However Microsoft has been aggressively updating the software as has Intel, and as a result of those effects the SP3 has really stepped up and is now quite a good little tablet/ultrabook combo. I only have two remaining concerns with the SP3: My i5 version continues to get extremely hot near the middle of the device (e.g. whe…

Is it any different from from the Macbook versus Macbook Pro? Massively different devices. The odd duck out is the Surface RT line, which seems to be abandoned now, removing that confusion.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by Someone1234 »

Vexs wrote: post #71
Someone1234 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That 2 GB, 64 GB model just looks painful to use. I've seen a lot of Windows installs use up more than 64 GB, in particular as WinSXS grows as more updates are installed (thus more duplicate DLLs are stored). If anyone asked me, I'd describe 128 GB as the "minimum" storage needed for Windows. And even then you aren't storing much if any user data on it. 4 GB is the minimum I'd run anything newer than Windows XP on. T…

I really can't even use a computer that's less than 4 gb these days, especially once chrome gets it's grubby hands all over my RAM. Just running baseline I find that most windows systems take up about two GB of RAM, and after you load up chrome, word, whatever; it hits the 4GB+ range. I mean, we're starting to see phones with 2GB of ram, it's completely unacceptable for a modern tablet.

Indeed. I currently only have Chrome, Outlook, and Lync open and am using 4.2 GB of RAM. Over half of that is Chrome alone.

Now, granted, the OS does use more RAM has availability increases (I have 16 GB) however Chrome is a beast no matter what.

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