How will this assist with those not readily capable of engaging with technology? Or perhaps I'm not fully understanding all of it.
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#82This looks like Liquid Feedback[1] done right.
Liquid Feedback was a "liquid democracy" platform developed by the german pirate party. Both the software and the party are now largely dissolved; ironically killed by their over-zealous interpretation of democracy, which resulted in a lack of direction and rabid dilettantism.
Re: DemocracyOS
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
The only people that believe that internet access is only for the rich, is rich people. We come from Argentina, a latinamerican country and we are very aware of the social challenges we face. But it's not just a technological solution, we ALSO created a Political party that does a lot of offline activism helping society understand the power they have using digital technology. The Net Party ran for elections in 2013 a…
"Its candidates are committed to always vote in Congress according to what citizens vote online." You've built a system that requires privilege. And you're giving power only to those who have that privilege. You didn't address the fact there are those who do not have that privilege. Helping people understand the power of digital technology is meaningless if there are those who do not even have the digital technology.…
Are you going to buy them the digital technology? Are you going to pay for their internet access? How are you going to provide equal privilege?
It may come as a shock to you, but poor people have cellphones and internet, too.
Re: DemocracyOS
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Its candidates are committed to always vote in Congress according to what citizens vote online." You've built a system that requires privilege. And you're giving power only to those who have that privilege. You didn't address the fact there are those who do not have that privilege. Helping people understand the power of digital technology is meaningless if there are those who do not even have the digital technology.…
The only source that can provide equal access without using market forces, is the State. For the State to have such political will, it must have a political party that embraces the view on why internet access means access to education and knowledge. And that's one of the core aspects of our political party. Privilege? Think about a system that has 500 decision makers for a population of 300 million. That certainly re…
I'm not in disagreement with your ideas behind your political party, but I do not agree with the system you want to institute.
Re: DemocracyOS
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Its candidates are committed to always vote in Congress according to what citizens vote online." You've built a system that requires privilege. And you're giving power only to those who have that privilege. You didn't address the fact there are those who do not have that privilege. Helping people understand the power of digital technology is meaningless if there are those who do not even have the digital technology.…
Are you going to buy them the digital technology? Are you going to pay for their internet access? How are you going to provide equal privilege? It may come as a shock to you, but poor people have cellphones and internet, too.
And the ones who don't?
Re: DemocracyOS
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
The remedy is to require more than a majority threshold for decisions to be made. For example, a decision could require 80% agreement before it becomes law. In the USA we handle these issues with a representation by region (states) rather than by population. Solutions feel more like post-processing, then data gathering.
That doesn't defend against tyranny of the majority; it just requires a larger majority. In the USA we defend against tyranny of the majority with the constitution. The constitution places strict limits on what the majority can do to the minority through governmental force.
>>with the constitution
At the federal level we can change the constitution if we get enough votes. But its hard to achieve such a consensus, as it requires more than a simple super-majority. So it always comes down to thresholds.
Re: DemocracyOS
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you think about how much carnage has been caused by the fact that we can in fact pass unconstitutional laws and then it takes decades of work to strike them down due to the bottleneck we have in our court system (supreme court). Would be much better to not pass the obviously unconstitutional laws and let the courts handle complicated exceptions that were not caught.
America is an extremely bad example of how a democracy should work. Its main claim to fame is that it's old , not that it's exemplary.
It's not a democracy at all, purposefully so.
Re: DemocracyOS
#88I wish people in Pakistan used this. it would really help that country.
try starting a democracy here: http://hub.democracyos.com
Re: DemocracyOS
#89What about the monitoring and modification of online communities by the GCHQ? This doesn't even look resistant to that. Also, what about traditional ballot stuffing? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_100#Hacking anyone? I could only trust this if there were attached a mathematical proof of its usability. Otherwise, I kind of doubt it's worth anyone's time.
We are working to validate democracyOS votes with the blockchain. Happy to listen to any other suggestions
Please check out: https://blogs.ncl.ac.uk/security/2014/08/30/every-vote-count...
This is a paper describing an end-to-end verifiable self-enforcing electronic voting system called DRE-i (Direct Recording Electronic with Integrity).
In my opinion this is a superior solution to any other electronic voting system developed to date.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you going to buy them the digital technology? Are you going to pay for their internet access? How are you going to provide equal privilege? It may come as a shock to you, but poor people have cellphones and internet, too.
And the ones who don't?
The current world population is 7 billion people.
Approximately 1 billion smartphones are sold every year.
Do the math.