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The Windows Driver Frameworks are on GitHub

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Re: The Windows Driver Frameworks are on GitHub

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My son gets the Ask crapware whenever he updates Java to play MineCraft on his computer. He's a child, not a Java Developer. He just wants to play MineCraft and Java is in his way and the Crapware loads by opt out.

You might see it differently, but I never let kids update software on their own.

My parents were very strict about me not using knives when I was growing up, and it took me 30 years to finally get mostly comfortable with using knives in the kitchen. Yes, I've never cut myself with a knife, but I also rarely cook as a result.

Re: The Windows Driver Frameworks are on GitHub

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There are actually some strong OS voices in Microsoft. I was at Solutions Linux in France (around 2006 iirc) and there was a Microsoft booth. Since our booth had some downtime I talked to the guy manning their booth who was kind of stranded between Linux distros and FLOSS companies. He was pretty cool and genuinely trying to advance OS within Microsoft but said it's a pretty frustrating experience overall (his descri…

Scott Hanselman has been talking about the process of changing Microsoft's culture toward open source on Hanselminutes since he started working there about five years (and a couple of hundred episodes) ago. The move to open source has been in the works a long time and appears (to me at least) as part of Ballmer and Gates long term strategic plan for the era when they were no longer the largest and second largest shar…

Also, I bet having Phil Haack working at Github changed the mindset of a lot of people, either way, even from the days from Novel and Mono, Microsoft was always cool with opensource.

Re: The Windows Driver Frameworks are on GitHub

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One barrier to developing drivers for Windows is the driver signing policy https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff... which requires you to pay for a software publisher certificate.

Win10 even changed the requirements actually: https://www.osr.com/blog/2015/03/18/microsoft-signatures-req...

Personally, I think that signing all drivers off a single root makes sense, but I am concerned about the EV requirement. EricLaw mentioned before that they don't sell them to individuals, for example.

Re: The Windows Driver Frameworks are on GitHub

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Will it help making drivers for filesystems which MS doesn't care to support?

Probably not. The filesystem API Microsoft uses, Installable File System, has been in place and used by a bunch of people since the OS/2 days. Support for filesystems like zfs is lacking more due to apathy than anything else.

The IFS kit was a separate purchase from the DDK, even. There's a pieced-together header floating around on the web (as well as some OSS drivers for things like ext2)...

Re: The Windows Driver Frameworks are on GitHub

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What effect will this have on the ability to boost driver support in Linux, if any? FreeBSD has ndisgen [1], but would this help improve that or a broader set of driver use in Linux? Secondly, what about WINE? [1]: https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ndisgen

Linux has ndiswrapper

I wasn't trying to imply it didn't have an equivalent ndis tool, I just used FreeBSD as the example as that's my experience. I was more wondering if this would've helped advance these (and similar) offerings.

Re: The Windows Driver Frameworks are on GitHub

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1.Because MSFT doing good job 2. Gandhi was sick person, you can search about it , He was afraid of money/tea and so many things.Those good thing we hear about Gandhi I think most of them are propaganda.

1. Sure, Microsoft is doing the right thing after exhausting every other possibility. Closed source didn't work, FUD against open source didn't work ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt#Mic... ), now they need to stop people from leaving their platform and tools in any way possible. 2. Ad hominem. The behavior of an individual doesn't change the truth of what they say.

the behaviour of an individual does affect his creditability though.

Re: The Windows Driver Frameworks are on GitHub

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How much out of interest? I see prices of 180 USD a year on Google search. It's not expensive but for say an open source project which might not be bringing in income it's an annoying cost.

You also have to pay for each signature ($100 I think, not really sure). And the certification process is anything but easy (though it depends on the type of the driver).

I didn't, the signing was trivial, this is for a printer driver.
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