Further ties of NSA to Equation Group hackers

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Mar 11, 2015, 11:27 PM UTC

belorn wrote: post #28

tptacek wrote: post #24

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I don't know what repercussions there should be for that, but any consideration of repercussions has to consider the alternative to electronic attack, which is airplanes dropping munitions from great heights onto buildings with people in them. People should probably not kid themselves about geopolitics and military competition vanishing if we somehow manage to regulate "electronic warfare".

We recently had a article from Schneier that made a similar observation comparing electronic attack to airplanes dropping munitions from great heights, which is why the conclusion was that electronic attacks should be under the control of the military and not by NSA. We expect the military to strike other nations civil infrastructure (or at least the subject can be debated), but we also expect them to take responsibi…

Post by jMyles » Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 1:34 AM UTC

pnathan wrote: post #82

jMyles wrote: post #56

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Simply put, I don't want the NSA to exist at all. Does that ensure that I run in "anarchist circles" in your mind? I don't think my view is far from the mainstream on this matter - many reasonable people are for abolition.

Honestly, yes, I would say that abolishing State espionage departments is right along anarchist thinking. It's been well known for centuries that gentlemen in the government business read each others mail as a matter of course.