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Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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Re: Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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I agree. Consumers can't lambast companies for not being innovative or daring enough, if they turn around and rip them a new one if they release anything other than something they're fully behind for 20 years, and either keep everything other than that to themselves or kill it before it gets to that stage. You can't have it both ways, people.

> You can't have it both ways, people. Of course we can. It's just that companies are now so geared to quarterly roadmaps that nothing has time to gain momentum unless it becomes a phenomenon. I see this with airlines as well; they launch a route in the middle of winter, or on a business route with schedules that are awkward for meetings, and then can it two months later because 'no-one uses it'. Which dissuades othe…

No, we really can't have it both ways. Obviously (clearly) they will keep products that have sufficient momentum.

With a little thought, however, it will be obvious to you that the consumer's definition of "sufficient" cannot possibly match a company's definition in 100% of cases: there will be a grey area where at least some people will like mouthwash-flavored bubble gum, but not enough people do that the company can afford to keep it. (And see if it does take off later, as you say would have happened in many cases.)

Consumers have two alternatives: either allow companies to test products like this without backlash, and accept that some products will be discontinued due to lack of adoption, or to have stagnancy with only upstart companies trying new things and the existing brands sitting on the bylines looking for success built elsewhere that they can copy.

I support innovation and encourage companies to go out on a limb, without any backlash if they discontinue these tests. (Even if I loved the product.)

Re: Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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I really don't like things like this. A lot of these projects ended up as other projects or built into other projects. Google checkout turned into Google Wallet. Google latitude ended up as part of the Google+ Identity overhaul. There's also a lot of projects that are "labs" or "beta." Clearly they didn't gain the traction Google wanted from them. Google's like any other startup on a project-by-project basis. If the…

Yes, Google Checkout became Google Wallet, which shut down their API for digital goods three days ago: https://developers.google.com/wallet/digital/

their API for digital goods is now called Android Pay, and goes live within months ( http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/02/android-pay-is-real-and-wil... & http://www.androidcentral.com/google-launching-their-own-pay... )

Re: Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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> I really don't like things like this. Really? Can you explain more why. Is there an article accompanying it that shames Google or says anything bad about it. To me it just looks like a company that iterates and is trying new things. > A lot of these projects ended up as other projects or built into other projects. Well it would be bad if they completely threw away the code, and then hired a whole new group of peopl…

Nah, the whole reason it exists, and is linked here is to try and pile on that Google is terrible and shuts down products that everyone in the world loves. But the reality is the minor minor subset of the world that is HN loved some of these projects and were upset no one else used them, thus they were shut down. I haven't seen any accompanying MS articles like this, mainly because there haven't been angry posts here…

Have you not seen how much outrage appears whenever Microsoft change the Windows desktop?

Microsoft also gets the reverse treatment: criticism for "excessive" backwards compatibility^ and leaving old products in use that people want to kill (IE6).

^ Except when they were sabotaging Lotus, Quarterdeck, OS/2, and Samba back in the 90s.

Re: Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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I really don't like things like this. A lot of these projects ended up as other projects or built into other projects. Google checkout turned into Google Wallet. Google latitude ended up as part of the Google+ Identity overhaul. There's also a lot of projects that are "labs" or "beta." Clearly they didn't gain the traction Google wanted from them. Google's like any other startup on a project-by-project basis. If the…

To add one more in the list, Google Talk eventually became Hangouts. The list states that it was abandoned in 2013, but it was actually still working properly at the end of 2014 when I last used it. I don't know if it works any more, since I eventually switched to hangouts (although I was reluctant to do so - https://twitter.com/StathisG/status/530740696719060992).

Re: Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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I'm using Gmail. Should I be worried?

I doubt Google would kill Gmail outright but they might go the Twitter route and remove generic IMAP access. I would be surprised if IMAP was still an option after the next 2-3 years.

You've reminded me to back up my email.

Re: Google Memorial: the small museum of projects abandoned by Google

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not everyone used Google Code either. What's your point?

Code Search searched a lot more than just what was stored on Google. What's your point?

I think his point was that Code and Code Search are/were different products.

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I'm using Gmail. Should I be worried?

I doubt Google would kill Gmail outright but they might go the Twitter route and remove generic IMAP access. I would be surprised if IMAP was still an option after the next 2-3 years.

I could see them pulling the ability to pull in your own POP/IMAP accounts into Gmail - to force more folks to use Apps.

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I will save the link for every time someone points out only Microsoft changes its mind.

Not sure who you're talking to (probably 20-somethings) but Microsoft is the champion of backward compatibility. They may have floundered recently but traditionally their adherence to old models has actually been a hindrance.

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To me, this is evidence of Google's rather awkward relationship with consumers (i.e. they toss tons of branded endeavors at us, see what sticks), and not a knock against fearlessly trying things or whatever. The best brands are coy and careful with their identity... google sorta slops it around. this is a list of failed consumer facing products more than it is a list of "bad ideas".

I don't really see how it is awkward or hurts relationships with consumers (especially when most all products and services are free) -- it's a form of market research and product testing. Who needs focus groups when you have the world?

Because consumers learn not to trust products with Google branding to stick around.
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