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Re: Edward Snowden, Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald: AUAA

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Post by turbojerry » Tue, Feb 24, 2015, 1:43 PM UTC

grey-area wrote: post #10

Well, when we look back on history, the progress of Western civilization and human rights is actually founded on the violation of law....Ultimately, if people lose their willingness to recognize that there are times in our history when legality becomes distinct from morality, we aren't just ceding control of our rights to government, but our agency in determining our futures. There are lots of really interesting and…

"[T]he very essence of the [Nuremberg] Charter is that individuals have intentional duties which transcend the national obligations of obedience imposed by the individual state.” - U.S. Chief Prosecutor Robert K. Jackson 1948

Re: Edward Snowden, Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald: AUAA

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Post by dreamfactory2 » Wed, Feb 25, 2015, 2:28 PM UTC

GabrielF00 wrote: post #60

nickysielicki wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll be the first to admit I'm a dumb 20 year old that largely doesn't understand the world. You seem to know a great deal about the intricacies of the history in the middle east. I know nothing. I'm genuinely curious, though, do you think there is no argument for what I said? >If you're young [...], and you have very few economic opportunities, and your society is incredibly corrupt, then a radical change becomes ve…

The comparison between Syria and Iran is a bit strange. These are two completely different countries. Syria is primarily Sunni, Iran primarily Shi'a. Syrians speak Arabic, Iranians speak Persian. The two countries have different systems of government, different histories, different cultures. When young people are angry in Iran, they're angry at a theocratic, clerical government. When young people were angry in Syria,…

> To my knowledge there has never been much evidence that the US funded Bin Laden in the '80s. The CIA funded Afghans to fight the Soviets, and some Arab Islamists were also fighting the Soviets.

According the UK foreign secretary at the time: "Throughout the 80s he (OBL) was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians."

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/jul/08/july7.development

Re: Edward Snowden, Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald: AUAA

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Post by dreamfactory2 » Wed, Feb 25, 2015, 2:33 PM UTC

DAddYE wrote: post #14

A good thing about America is that while the "politics" lag behind citizens and US companies try at least to solve partially the problem. I liked these bits: Google encrypted the backhaul communications between their data centers to prevent passive monitoring. Apple was the first forward with an FDE-by-default smartphone (kudos!) We often denigrate US and his biggest companies like: Apple, Google or Microsoft. So I a…

So you'd rather see this in the hands of a private company than an elected body?

Re: Edward Snowden, Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald: AUAA

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Post by mkramlich » Thu, Feb 26, 2015, 10:16 PM UTC

mkramlich wrote: post #59

HBO here in Colorado was scheduled to show Citizenfour at 7pm local time. At approx 6pm I turned it on to get it ready. Black and silent. Continued black and silent up thru 9pm local when it was supposed to have ended. All other cable TV channels and local/public channels have worked normally during this period that I can tell. HBO worked fine yesterday and every day before for as long as I can remember. Unprecedente…

for the public record, HBO came back the next day

AFAIK, HBO (here, for me, my provider) had a total visual/sound outage on that day, only, the day that Citizenfour was to debut on air. HBO worked fine every day before. and every day since. I made no changes. and I've seen no explanation for it.