>Do companies like Brainstorm Elite ever pay the price for wholesale fraud and the theft of brand identities? Yes, they do. The FTC takes them for every penny they got. At least the big ones. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/01/the-dark...
Whereupon their creators it seems walk away and start the next dodgy company. Glancing at the Atlantic article "Jesse Willms is doing just fine financially—and he has a new yellow Lamborghini to prove it" and is advertising "just $1 for a vehicle-history report" and then billing $199 to peoples credit cards. Methinks the laws could be tightened a tad.
Yahoo Homepage – Now Featuring Extra-Scammy Scams
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#82Just want to point out that AdChoices is NOT owned by Google, and they do NOT serve any advertising. It's a program organised by the DAA (Digital Advertising Alliance) which is itself formed of several other advertising associations, the goal of which is to be a self-regulatory program allowing to opt out of online behavioral advertising, so that you do not have to see any behavior targeted ads if you choose not to.…
You wrote "it's expensive to fact check every single creative that comes through" I'm surprised they fact check any ads. Many publications don't have the budget to fact check their news, features, or editorials, never mind the ads.
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#83>Do companies like Brainstorm Elite ever pay the price for wholesale fraud and the theft of brand identities? Yes, they do. The FTC takes them for every penny they got. At least the big ones. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/01/the-dark...
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
... constant challenge for any creative type is making a living. Well perhaps if that's the case what you do is not valuable to anyone. People have trouble coming to terms with the fact that they don't necessarily deserve to earn a living because they're doing something they like. It's like people are incapable of growing up anymore.
Something tells me that you benefit daily from the efforts of people who had difficulty earning a living from their craft at some point. Do you listen to music, watch television or movies, appreciate art, read books or web content? The creators of those things didn't all start out as highly acclaimed millionaires. Most of them spent years making things that weren't valuable to anyone. There are an abundance of people…
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#85Adwords is becoming increasingly bad with these kind of ads lately. Yahoo are lucky that they don't have the automatic redirecting version that simply takes visitors away from your site onto these fake landing pages. Most of them seem to be coming from compromised adwords accounts. As a publisher it's very difficult to do anything about this since Google apparently let adwords publishers insert arbitrary javascript i…
I have no idea why ad networks don't have two fields for advertisers: a plain PNG image and a URL to link to. I guess the answer is somehow "money," but I feel like client websites would have enough incentive to switch to the network that works this way to avoid this BS for their users.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
... constant challenge for any creative type is making a living. Well perhaps if that's the case what you do is not valuable to anyone. People have trouble coming to terms with the fact that they don't necessarily deserve to earn a living because they're doing something they like. It's like people are incapable of growing up anymore.
That's not completely true. While it's true that some artists just feel entitled to a paycheck, there are other reasons to support paying for content. After all, good music (or good anything) takes a lifetime of practice to make. You have less time to perfect your craft if you're working a full time job doing something else. If some artists are allowed to make a living off their work, or even half a living off their…
I have no problems with anyone willing to part with their money for content. I do it myself from time to time. My issue is the sense of entitlement whereby people think they should be getting money because they are performing an activity the feel should earn them money.
Re: Yahoo Homepage – Now Featuring Extra-Scammy Scams
#87Adwords is becoming increasingly bad with these kind of ads lately. Yahoo are lucky that they don't have the automatic redirecting version that simply takes visitors away from your site onto these fake landing pages. Most of them seem to be coming from compromised adwords accounts. As a publisher it's very difficult to do anything about this since Google apparently let adwords publishers insert arbitrary javascript i…
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#88I was originally against ad-blockers, because it provides me with an incentive to look for alternatives and I also want to reward websites that don't do this shit. However, it's because of scams and malware pushed by means of ads that I started using ad-blockers myself and I recommend it to all my non-technical friends. It's also the reason for why on my Android I'm now using Firefox. For Google to not provide at lea…
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#89I was originally against ad-blockers, because it provides me with an incentive to look for alternatives and I also want to reward websites that don't do this shit. However, it's because of scams and malware pushed by means of ads that I started using ad-blockers myself and I recommend it to all my non-technical friends. It's also the reason for why on my Android I'm now using Firefox. For Google to not provide at lea…
This sort of ad is all too typical. They mash up some creative, add some annoying animation, and carpet-bomb the ad channels with it.
Sorry, if you can't screen your ads more effectively (The Deck, for example) I'm blocking you.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Patreon is saving the world, not AdBlock. It's still early but I expect in 10 years that "trying to make money via ads" is going to see "very 2010s", due to the lack of words for "something done from the late 1990s to the late 2010s". It just doesn't work. It almost works. It is so painfully close to working that we can taste it, which is why it has hung around so long. But eventually, advertising corrupts all souls.…
Patrion is a good idea however a better one would be if you could pay £0.01 - £0.05 (pick your currency) per you-tube video watched and not have any ads shown. Right now everybody in analitics is thinking in the millions of impressions but imagine if you could make £0.05 per impression. That would be £50,000 per million views. I wouldn't mind just having a few pounds on my youtube account and using that to avoid seei…
One possibly reason is that advertising crowds out microtransactions in any practical implementation; you can either hope that your viewer has installed a microtransaction plugin and is visiting enough sites to make it worthwhile and not let the installation decay, or you can simply install ads and get 100th the price of a single transaction but get it from everybody. Microtransactions have faced a serious boil-the-ocean problem. On the other hand, under the patronage model, you get about 500-1000 people to support you with 4-5 bucks a month and now you're living a middle class lifestyle. That's not trivial, but it's not boil the ocean. (And if you can't get that, well... sorry, perhaps you're not cut out to be an internet "content creator" and live on that. I know I personally am not.)
I got that 4-5 bucks a month by running the numbers on the four campaigns I'm involved in. The averages I obtained were $7.80, $3.50, $4.50, and $3.90 per patron. 2 of those are big enough that the creators can live comfortably middle-class lifestyles on the patronage alone. One is augmenting contract cartooning work and I would imagine between the two of those things is comfortably-middle class. One of them can not on just the patronage income, but has expressed thanks on his blog for it being enough money to find a better place to live for him and his family, and the other is a now embarrassingly-oversupplied-with-money Let's Play series that's a spare time thing that certainly is worth the time the owner invests in it now. So this is not a rehash of the "microtransactions will be awesome someday in the future" argument that I've been reading; this is happening now, it's the present.
(And in all cases, when I say "comfortably middle-class", I am including both fees taken out before they get their money, taxes, and self-insuring; $60-70K a year in income is more than many people see! If they're merely making the "median US income" in cash before fees and taxes I would be less glib, though even that is impressive compared to what could be done three years ago.)
(Also, by no means am I claiming this is a random sample. You may go do your own to whatever criteria you like. But I would also reiterate that this isn't going to work for everyone, and a failed Patreon campaign isn't really the fault of either Patreon or the idea of patronage as a viable solution.)