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OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by r00fus »

gcao wrote: post #29
pbreit wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doubt you're going to see much about crashing since I presume that most MBP owners, like myself, never experience crashes.

Mine crashes a lot. Usually after I send it to sleep when I go home. Next time when I wake it up, it starts up from crashed state. It might have something to do with some app I installed but I didn't spend time to figure that out yet.

VMWare 6 seems to be the cause of some of mine. I resolved it by making sure it's suspended prior to system sleep.

I wonder if the most recent VMWare version would help.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by jimeuxx »

I hope developers make good use of the changes to the title bar. It completely breaks the flow of the design of a lot of apps, and kills precious vertical space on my 13-inch MBP. A keyboard shortcut to toggle the menu bar would've been nice too. Neither of those would be big issues if it weren't for the slow, eye-melting, completely superfluous fullscreen animations though.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by epochwolf »

segmondy wrote: post #43
gcao wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mine crashes a lot. Usually after I send it to sleep when I go home. Next time when I wake it up, it starts up from crashed state. It might have something to do with some app I installed but I didn't spend time to figure that out yet.

Don't blame the app, blame the OS, the OS is suppose to insulate the app, it's not MSDOS, unless of course it runs as root then all bets are off.

VMWare installs kernel extentions. I'm pretty sure you can blame an app that deliberately messes with the OS internals.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by FraaJad »

song wrote: post #46
smutticus wrote: post #6

None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics. I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that.…

Yes, I've never had OS X crash as often as Mavericks. And some of the crashes are completely repeatable. For example, open a lot of windows (20 terminal windows, 5-6 projects in Sublime, a bunch of browser windows used to test apps), turn on mission control and it just crashes every single time. I haven't done more test to figure the exact number of windows until it crashes but I know that it does for my workflow. Ad…

20 terminal windows? Is there any reason you are not using screen/tmux?

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by dutchbrit »

I really don't like the new design. The dock bar looks weird to name one thing, also the new buttons, bars and the window design is just ugly and plain (it feels like a Linux flavour trying to look like OS X designed by someone's neighbour's kid) - don't let me even mention the folder icons. Photoshop stalled once but that's the only quirck I've had in the past 2 weeks of using the beta so that's not too bad. Design wise however, I don't feel like this is a good replacement. Have to admit that iOS 7 did grow on me and I felt the same about that back then but I don't think the same will happen in this case.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by locomoco »

Anyone know how to turn off the Macbook pro screen with the lid open while using external monitors? On Mavericks this worked just fine:

http://gizmodo.com/5938452/a-trick-to-make-using-an-external...

Now no dice... anyone know a way to keep the screen off with the lid open?

To execute in Terminal:

sudo nvram boot-args="iog=0x0"

To undo in Terminal:

sudo nvram -d boot-args

Once you type it into terminal I believe you need to enter your password. I then restart my machine. Now the TRICK is to either restart your machine with the lid already closed (hit restart then slam the lid!) OR turn the machine on for the first time (then quickly slam the lid!) once you are past the login screen you can open the lid.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by wodenokoto »

locomoco wrote: post #86

Anyone know how to turn off the Macbook pro screen with the lid open while using external monitors? On Mavericks this worked just fine: http://gizmodo.com/5938452/a-trick-to-make-using-an-external... Now no dice... anyone know a way to keep the screen off with the lid open? To execute in Terminal: sudo nvram boot-args="iog=0x0" To undo in Terminal: sudo nvram -d boot-args Once you type it into terminal I believe you…

Can't you just turn the brightness down to zero?

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by locomoco »

wodenokoto wrote: post #87
locomoco wrote: post #86

Anyone know how to turn off the Macbook pro screen with the lid open while using external monitors? On Mavericks this worked just fine: http://gizmodo.com/5938452/a-trick-to-make-using-an-external... Now no dice... anyone know a way to keep the screen off with the lid open? To execute in Terminal: sudo nvram boot-args="iog=0x0" To undo in Terminal: sudo nvram -d boot-args Once you type it into terminal I believe you…

Can't you just turn the brightness down to zero?

Yes, but it's not the same as turning the display off. The GPU is still outputting signal to the Macbook Pro screen.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by bobbles »

lessnonymous wrote: post #76
toggle wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll check it out, but in his past reviews, I've had the impression that the author really likes showing off his background knowledge of all things Apple. A lot of the text is irrelevant to the review, and therefore shouldn't be there. Also, the endless, endless links. He really needs to learn when something should be linked and when it shouldn't -- it really affects the reading experience on the web. You're constant…

You comment made me laugh and 'ahhhhh!' at the same time. It now makes sense. He's totally into Apple and hasn't been elsewhere. A few of the things he talks about regarding the UI changes are already on Windows, but he talks as if they're a new invention. While he might be talking to a 100% Apple audience, I think it makes him look silly that he doesn't mention they're not Apple-original features. Eg. windows that a…

Pretty sure he actually talked about this in regards to Vista specifically on the latest episode of ATP

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by bobbles »

kevinqi wrote: post #34
vacri wrote: post #28

I can't wait for the 'flat' fad to be over.

I'd have to agree - maybe it's different when you use it, but based on the screenshots, the UI seems like a step backward.

I am not a mac user. (but own pretty much every other Apple product)

One of the things that has always turned me off from OSX is how it looks. I must say Yosemite is the first mac OS that actually looks appealing to me.

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