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With $30M More in Hand, IFTTT Looks to the Internet of Things

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Re: With $30M More in Hand, IFTTT Looks to the Internet of Things

#81

IFTTT strikes me as the canonical example of a useful, small project that people would pay for that instead got stars in its eyes. For the moment, it's a great example of venture capitalists subsidizing a useful adapter cable for Internet services. But I get nervous when infrastructure gets delusions of grandeur. If 'cron' suddenly acquired a staff of 40, I would start looking for alternatives.

Making web versions of classic Unix utilities has been a successful business model.

Re: With $30M More in Hand, IFTTT Looks to the Internet of Things

#82
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There are millions of programmers around the world who'll never write any code outside work, and they vastly outnumber the rest of us. You mean the programmers with healthy work-life balance that have better things to do than waste their free time staring at a text editor? The implication that these "other programmers" are inferior in some way and require IFTTT to integrate services is quite offensive to me.

"Inferior" is a strong word, but coders who are not given time at work to improve their skills (this is usually the case) and who never code/read about coding outside of work stagnate. I've interviewed many people like this - decades of experience, impressive sounding resume - who couldn't do fizzBuzz. I would prefer to hire someone who has work/life balance and codes for fun on their own time over someone who's stri…

I'm guessing you're exaggerating here but I'm curious - how could someone with decades of experience not do FizzBuzz? I can't wrap my head around it.

Re: With $30M More in Hand, IFTTT Looks to the Internet of Things

#83
Interesting no one mentioned Huginn [1]. It's open, and perfect for "internet of things" stuff. I've done some of the basic IOT stuff that's mentioned in the article with Huginn (open doors at specific times, turn on lights etc).

Sure it might not be as pretty as IFTTT (and I'm sure however IFTTT implement interfaces for IOT stuff will look great.. $30MM great) but they're working on it.

[1] http://github.com/cantino/huginn

Re: With $30M More in Hand, IFTTT Looks to the Internet of Things

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> While IFTTT’s dream is for all companies to play nicely together via its open platform... A closed-source integration service is not an open platform, and this is especially relevant when it is an integration platform. I am betting (and building something towards the same ends) on more people embracing and promoting open alternatives than at any time before. IFTTT's market is huge. There are millions of programmers…

> The next step in open and free software will be making coding, forking and deploying apps as easy as editing Wikipedia.

I've been working on something along these lines for quite a while now. I've temporarily taken down the landing page while I get all the ducks in a row and put up the new one, but if you send an email to contact@loggur.com, I'll make sure to contact you when Loggur launches.

We should launch within the next week or two!

Re: With $30M More in Hand, IFTTT Looks to the Internet of Things

#85

And still no webhooks - http://blog.jazzychad.net/2012/08/05/ifttt-needs-webhooks-st... This one thing would blow up usage by developers across the board.

"There's a big strategic risk in you guys offering web hooks: it facilitates competitors piggybacking on your event detection and building high value response services that compete directly with your own. In other words, you become a piece of costly-to-maintain middleware and others capture the real consumer value." -- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4344335 In other words, something like webhooks hurts the bott…

Their main competitor Zapier.com does offer web hooks, in an open fashion, so I'm not sure that argument still holds.

Also, there is still a lot of value that can be added by the middleware besides repeated polling, such as filtering and facilitating easy setup

Re: With $30M More in Hand, IFTTT Looks to the Internet of Things

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post #22

> While IFTTT’s dream is for all companies to play nicely together via its open platform... A closed-source integration service is not an open platform, and this is especially relevant when it is an integration platform. I am betting (and building something towards the same ends) on more people embracing and promoting open alternatives than at any time before. IFTTT's market is huge. There are millions of programmers…

I'm really excited about huginn as an open alternative.

Re: With $30M More in Hand, IFTTT Looks to the Internet of Things

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post #83

Interesting no one mentioned Huginn [1]. It's open, and perfect for "internet of things" stuff. I've done some of the basic IOT stuff that's mentioned in the article with Huginn (open doors at specific times, turn on lights etc). Sure it might not be as pretty as IFTTT (and I'm sure however IFTTT implement interfaces for IOT stuff will look great.. $30MM great) but they're working on it. [1] http://github.com/cantino…

The UI needs more love and kittens. I should really get off my butt and send in more PRs though :(

Re: With $30M More in Hand, IFTTT Looks to the Internet of Things

#88
post #76

I'd bet $100M on IFTTT if I had it. They've got an amazing ecosystem of often proprietary devices and services feeding event information into them. v1 is rules by end-users—v10 intelligence by the system. What if they could take that data and create concepts around the identity of people using those devices, where they are at certain times, what they're doing, etc. etc. Turn all that data around and broker it back to…

... and that's one reason why I won't use it for anything meaningful. I'm tired of my digital activities simply becoming fodder for a third party's data mining.

Re: With $30M More in Hand, IFTTT Looks to the Internet of Things

#89
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think what you're looking for is tasker https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch....

Or the free-of-cost Llama https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kebab.Llam...

Not quite free, includes in app purchases.

Re: With $30M More in Hand, IFTTT Looks to the Internet of Things

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This exactly. I understand why they haven't done it, but the number of things I'd love to build as a hobbyist if only I could get a REST endpoint to trigger or enter a webhook URL to receive actions...

We're building a way for others to build and take ownership of their Channels: https://ifttt.com/platform Hobby or personal Channels are an interesting idea!

No, they're not really. We're building Smart IR Remote (universal remote android app) and AnyMote (hardware, now on kickstarter), and we applied on IFTTT's link over a month ago, without any reply. Didn't even get back to us.
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