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Re: Sublime Text 3 Updated

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A lot of ST users are former Textmate users, too. So we've certainly been through this rigamarole before.

Textmate 2 did exactly what Blender did. Went open source, has a healthy developer community, and has had steady updates for a couple of years. They still call it "Alpha" but it is very stable and I use it every day.

Yes, but Textmate 2, after all this time, has less options and is slower than ST2, much less ST3.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Updated

#82
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> If this is true, why are the releases still labelled 'dev' releases? Because it's an arbitrary label. Or because John wants to hook something additional up or polish something before giving it his "3.0" blessing. Or because it crashes on Linux and needs to fix that too... But not because there's any issue with it on OS X, at least not for me, and I'm a heavy (8-10 hours per day) user.

Or because other people in this thread insist that in fact it's not stable, and there are numerous bugs on multiple platforms. Regardless, if you want people to know that a release is ready for use by people who want a stable release, you label it a final release, right? Presumably the developer(s) do not believe it is ready for wide use. Whether they are being overly conservative or not is I suppose another question…

>Or because other people in this thread insist that in fact it's not stable, and there are numerous bugs on multiple platforms.

I don't know what plugins those people use. They might have thrown in the kitchen sink of unstable plugins. Lots of people using ST3 in the forums without issues. Plus I know my personal experience on my platform of choice.

>Regardless, if you want people to know that a release is ready for use by people who want a stable release, you label it a final release, right?

Well, some projects prefer the perpetual beta designation. Heck, even Google did that for years for stuff like Gmail etc.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Updated

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Please note that this is a dev build of Sublime Text 3. You can only get it by manually downloading or checking for updates using a dev build. The most recent stable build of ST3 is from December of 2013.[1] Dev builds are alpha-quality and generally unsuitable for everyday use. The current build will change permissions on any file you save.[2] 1. http://www.sublimetext.com/3 2. http://www.sublimetext.com/forum/viewt…

hmm weird, i cannot reproduce the bug on os x. (3dev channel)

touch hello.txt; chmod 777 hello.txt; subl hello.txt; add something and save ; 777 still.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Updated

#84
post #60

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Agreed, my point was that it's a dead project as new updates don't even have cosmetic changes. I bought a license, I really like it, but just like Intype and E on Windows and Kod and TextMate on Mac, the fate of Sublime Text is pretty clear.

but textmate is alive and new builds are released quite often! https://github.com/textmate/textmate/

True, TextMate's agony is at a lower pace than Sublime Text, but it's still not having the metabolic rate of Atom and the likes.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Updated

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I love this editor and it makes me sad to see how the project is stalled. In 2002 the investors behind Blender launched the "Free Blender" campaign. They asked for 100,000 EUR as a one-time fee for open sourcing it. At the time the project was dying as a proprietary product. The investors got the money and today Blender is a healthy open source project. I would love to see something similar with Sublime Text. The aut…

Stalled? I can't understand why people has this perception. You're not the only one; SublimeHQ forums are full of people complaining that "Sublime project is dead".

The guy releases a new version almost every month. He doesn't talk much, but keeps chugging along, fixing bugs and releasing incremental functionality every month or two.

True, it is still beta. But so what? ST3 has been incredibly stable since the first version, and all beta versions are a free upgrade to all ST2 licensed users till it is out of beta.

Plus, if you're really missing any functionality, just go ahead and develop a plugin. It's easy, and you don't need to open source the entire editor for that.

I think we should give the author a break. He built one of the best editors out there, and I really hope he can make a living out of this product, in whatever way he can.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Updated

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I still don't get it. What's wrong with using a lisp as the underlying architecture? This should be an advantage.

One of the problems is that it's a terrible Lisp and runtime. If it was at least a Scheme, there would be less complaining. Also, Lisps aren't popular, as you surely know. The display technology assumes a text terminal, just like vim. There are many things you can't do with that which are easy with a proper GUI.

Actually the Lisp runtime of GNU Emacs is not terrible. It's just that there are a few better in the Lisp world. Some of the things in Emacs Lisp are there by design.

> The display technology assumes a text terminal,

GNU Emacs and Xemacs have a lot of support for non-text-terminal displays.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Updated

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I love this editor and it makes me sad to see how the project is stalled. In 2002 the investors behind Blender launched the "Free Blender" campaign. They asked for 100,000 EUR as a one-time fee for open sourcing it. At the time the project was dying as a proprietary product. The investors got the money and today Blender is a healthy open source project. I would love to see something similar with Sublime Text. The aut…

Stalled? I can't understand why people has this perception. You're not the only one; SublimeHQ forums are full of people complaining that " Sublime project is dead ". The guy releases a new version almost every month. He doesn't talk much, but keeps chugging along, fixing bugs and releasing incremental functionality every month or two. True, it is still beta. But so what? ST3 has been incredibly stable since the firs…

What are you talking about? Jon hasn't released anything since the end of 2013...
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