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Re: Twitter's GIF hack

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This is on a fully-patched RHEL6 workstation: http://i.imgur.com/NleqJTD.png Another example of "use bleeding-edge tech or go fuck yourself" from the modern web.

I get this on Chromium despite embedded h.264 working everywhere else :P

Re: Twitter's GIF hack

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post #41
post #33

I'm curious if anyone is noticed the flickering Loading icon when the .mp4 version loops? It only shows up for 50 ms, but seems kind of annoying. Or maybe it's just my machine? Here's a cap: http://imgur.com/2R84ImD

Yeah, I see it too. Very annoying.

Also annoying to have to allow javascript to see what is supposed to be an image.

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#84
post #14

I had noticed that. Because of flashblock. Yeah, a 20+ years file format doesn't do compression between frames, who would have thought...

Except that it does do that, the article is wrong. As I wrote in a different comment the actual reason is lossy jpeg compression, not intra frame compression.

Aah you're right.

Yeah, for pictures jpeg is much better (and smaller) than gif.

Not to mention in several gifs they really reduce the quality to have a smaller file size

Re: Twitter's GIF hack

#85
post #76
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should probably qualify that somehow, because MP4 works for me on Firefox (on OSX 10.9).

It does not work for me, too. FF30, OSX 10.9.3. https://www.evernote.com/shard/s19/sh/e81e070a-4e2e-4367-9eb...

OSX 10.9.2 + FF30 here: http://i.imgur.com/uTlQkg7.jpg

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post #24

So. Who was first. 4chan or twitter? How long has twitter been doing this? Just out of curiousity. (Yes I know 4chan doesn't convert but there was some talk that 4chan might be a major player in pushing webm forward. Is it even webm or x264? On mobile. Can't check right now.)

4chan pushed webm before twitter.

gifcat (or gyfcat idk) was before 4chan. github beat gifcat. Basically twitter is doing what gifcat does, which has been doing it for a few years.

Re: Twitter's GIF hack

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the whole reason gifs started proliferating on the net because people wanted to share short video loops, but didn't want to embed flash or video which may not load or play correctly in a user's browser? And now we are championing the conversion of those gifs back into video? Seems like a strange round-about way of doing things.

I forsee a future where all video clips on the net have been converted back and forth between gif and video so often that they all slowly merge into a single amorphous blob of greyish-brown pixels. Actually, now that I think about it, that would almost certainly be an improvement over the current situation.

Re: Twitter's GIF hack

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Support for mp4 isn't bleeding-edge tech on other operating systems / distributions, unfortunately. It's a couple of years old in terms of being supported by Chrome; it's supported in Firefox as of last August. At this point, desktop configurations that can't play mp4s are at risk of being considered "broken."

Actually I'm on Chrome/Mavericks and I get the same thing.

Chrome + Mavericks here - I see the video just fine. Did you mean Chromium?

Re: Twitter's GIF hack

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post #88

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the whole reason gifs started proliferating on the net because people wanted to share short video loops, but didn't want to embed flash or video which may not load or play correctly in a user's browser? And now we are championing the conversion of those gifs back into video? Seems like a strange round-about way of doing things. I forsee a future where all video clips on the net hav…

I don't disagree with you, but isn't it reasonable to think that browsers now can play most videos without any issues?
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